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[Ish]

i got to admit i didn't want ot play it at first but ff is a good game series but the problem is some people find ff addictive and most of the games are sequels to another game or a new story arc

[Hadel]

It seems to me FF games are getting a little too stagnant...they've been pretty much attempts at remaking FFVIII since they made IX, but with weak stories generic characters and failed battle systems...

Let's face it. It's more like they've pretty much been trying to remake/refine FF since they made FFII. Square was dead in the water before FF, and then they somehow struck gold with the first one. So, naturally, they milked the hell out of the title and tagged it onto all their games that follow the formula somewhat, only with the intention of making money. I mean, that's what the business is all about, anyway. That's what almost any business is about.

I agree. Final Fantasy is a good series, but there needs to be discussion about other RPGs too. Final Fantasy isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread, after all.XII had something good going, though. The battle system was fun for once, the graphics were nice, and the characters were likeable. But the thing is, the story felt half-baked. I wouldn't mind seeing more Final Fantasy games if they were more like a complete XII. But as it stands, the series is getting boring. I'm still going to buy them since I wouldn't feel right with an incomplete collection.

XII I felt had a battle system too much like that of MMORPGs, and this actually worsened the experience. As for what you said about needing a complete collection, that is probably one of the reasons why Square has been able to milk it for so long. There are a lot of people who think the same way as you about needing the whole collection. The only time this didn't work for them was when they tried to do that movie "The Spirits Within"... it resulted in their biggest loss of money ever, and accelerated the joining of Square and Enix, also giving Enix the upper hand in the deal. Other than that flop, they have always been able to get away with just tagging Final Fantasy onto something because many gamers feel they just need to keep collecting.

I disagree. This is one of the all time series of games. Theres nothing that comes close to it on any ps consol. I do agree that some story lines seem alot alike, but thats what its always going to be like in a series of games. At least the game makes try and change the style and format of gameplay.

See, that's the thing... they haven't tried to change the gameplay much. They've just refined it and made better use of whatever technology was available at the time. As for nothing coming close to it on any console... well, even within the RPG realm, the Dragon Quest series is even more popular in Japan than FF. So is Pokemon, easily, though it has not been around as long as DQ and therefore has not had quite as many sales.

You've got a veteran rpg'er here GB, so no disagreement with the great decline of Squaresoft. Personally, I think Enix should get out of that marriage.

Enix benefits from it as much as Square does. Again, money is the biggest factor in the business... Enix has been milking DQ and Star Ocean as much as they can, too. Square has done it with FF and Seiken Densetsu. There of course were a few other series by each that never got past a few games, but whatever. Money, that's the key. If you can get away with formulating your games and repeating them while still pulling in cash, why not?As for the FF fanboys on this forum, anytime you have a successful franchise, having numerous fanboys just comes with the territory. I'm sure if this were a gaming board based in Japan, there'd be a ton of FF and DQ fanboys fighting each other. It just happens.Something for giant FF fans to remember, though: would they have made that game and been able to be so successful with it had the first couple of DQ games by Enix not gotten such a good response from consumers? Really, they just took the formula of that game and added multiple characters to the party, after all.

[Hadel]

I don't think that they should "milk it for all its worth." I think that they should take time, like they did in FFXII, to make the game great. I don't think that there is anyone who can deny that they achieved a new level of great with the new FF. It is better than any FF to date to me. Even if it isn't it still deserves praise for taking risks that no one ever thought that FF would take.

This isn't precisely what the topic is about, but I think I should point out that I can in fact deny this claim, making your statement false! o.OFFXII's battle system was a LOT like your standard MMORPG battle system, which can be even more boring than a normal turn based system! It recycles a lot of story elements and characters from some of the more successful FF games and FF offshoots (yea, I mean Tactics), and other than its graphics, I wouldn't say it has anything completely outstanding from the rest of the series. Its soundtrack simply didn't have as great a feel, and it seemed rather bland, and I just didn't feel incredibly involved while playing it.It is not a horrible FF game, don't get me wrong. In fact, it is better than most of them. However, it does not top the series, nor does it really do anything as innovative as you claim.That probably could have been said in some thread about FFXII, but whatever. =\

See, this is hyperbole. It's not crazy hyperbolic hyperbole, but it is hyperbole nonetheless. Hyperbole is not necessary, though it is a fun word to say. Just saying it's the best Final Fantasy to date is only gonna lead to backlash, and attract the "ALL NEW RPGS ARE THE WORST GAME EVER MADE!" crowd. What's so great about it? I've heard the battle system is great fun, but that's all I really know.

I am not really a part of that crowd. Neverwinter Nights is an awesome RPG that is pretty new, for instance. However, I don't understand why everyone is saying its battle system is so great! Yes, it is different than that of most other console RPGs, and the FF series as a whole. But it really seems to be trying to convert the MMORPG format of battle to the console, and to me it just doesn't work out too well. It's not THAT fun and innovative, folks, really!

[vincent12]

I think that squarenix should move on to another series like the chrono series and hype it up and spend a lot of effort on to it. Or make another series of games.