I Dont Care Eather Way But I Do Know I Dont Want My Kids Growing Up Around That If My Kids Do Turn Out Gay Fine But I Dont Want To Have To Answer There Questions When They Are 6 or 7 And They Ask Why Two Men or Women Are Making Out But Every One Has Their Own Decisions Im Not Here To Change Peoples Minds About The Subject -=PEACE=-~FATE
should gays have the right to marry? (homosexual marriage thread)
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:37 AM
I don't believe that it's right for same sex to get married. I'm a Christian so I do believe in what Bible says and I know it's in the Bible that homosexuality is wrong. But even though we take out Bible stuff (for those who are athiests) why is there man and woman? There must be a purpose why man and woman are there. Can't make life with two same sex. That's for sure.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:49 AM
i beleive that somtin created dis world n everything , but i beleive dat gays should have jus as much right to get married as we doI don't believe that it's right for same sex to get married. I'm a Christian so I do believe in what Bible says and I know it's in the Bible that homosexuality is wrong. But even though we take out Bible stuff (for those who are athiests) why is there man and woman? There must be a purpose why man and woman are there. Can't make life with two same sex. That's for sure.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:53 AM
The fact that you can spell and have good grammar is good. However, your latter argument is flawed. Why do we have an appendix? Why do we have a tailbone? Homosexuality occurs in animals too, it's not just perversion of the human mind.I don't believe that it's right for same sex to get married. I'm a Christian so I do believe in what Bible says and I know it's in the Bible that homosexuality is wrong. But even though we take out Bible stuff (for those who are athiests) why is there man and woman? There must be a purpose why man and woman are there. Can't make life with two same sex. That's for sure.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:57 AM
um, i'm not arguing.. 
i was just stating my opinion. chill.
i was just stating my opinion. chill.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 11:39 AM
Marriage is for men and women; you can love someone of the same-sex but you shouldn't be given the rights of heteosexual couples
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 11:51 AM
"I strongly disagree and i think it souldnt be allowed because of what "god" had intended for people. DO You really think he wants a world full of gays and lesbos?"Let me start off by saying i'm just a 15 year old in high school who's a guy and straight. I have gay friends and enjoy hanging out with them. Friends are still friends, I do what I can for them. I'm there for them after they get tore apart by idiots who decide to insult and beat them up. On with my post...Do you really think he would put homosexuals on this earth? Wait...i'll wait for you to get your bible (while you waste your time doing this, nowhere does it say anything about homosexuality). In the meantime, i'll say this:Normally, you marry someone because you love them. Are homosexual couples really THAT different from straight couples? No. So they love the same sex. Does that affect you in any way? No. If they love eachother enough to get married, fine, let them be wed. (If my gay friends were able to get married, i'd be completely supportive. If I was asked to be his best man [none of his family likes him that much now -_-], i'd gladly accept that offer.)I also think that gay couples should be able to adopt. The child honeslty won't care that the parents are gay if they were abused, sexually assaulted, made to use drugs, etc. The couple will love the child all the same. And no, its not legal where i'm from.EDIT: Oh yes I completely over-looked this:"let me ask you a question if a person loves a animal very much do you think it is right for the animal and the human to get married"So now gay people are animals? They're STILL people, whether homophobics like that fact or not. They breathe our air, they have feelings that probably get shattered everyday, and do almost the same things we do.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 12:06 PM
In Belgium same sex marriage are legal and I think this is great. Marriage is a legal binding contract for two people who want to share the rest of their lives together. I doesn't matter what sex they are, as long as they are willing to commit to one another.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 12:13 PM
What are these rights which are reserved for heterosexual couples only? I doubt it's stated in the laws so marriage isn't a "right" for heterosexuals only. People only believe same-sex marriages shouldn't happen because they think it's wrong and assume that from the Bible unless you can cite a passage which it literally says homosexuality is wrong.Marriage is for men and women; you can love someone of the same-sex but you shouldn't be given the rights of heteosexual couples
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 01:04 PM
Dude2.2 said:let me ask you a question if a person loves a animal very much do you think it is right for the animal and the human to get marriedWow...are you trying to insinuate that gay people are a different species? Bravo...Marriage is about love. Not sex or religion. Remember that.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 01:26 PM
I think it should be tripple marriage I like to marry two lesbians...heheh just kidding well its all in our choices.....what can we do about it?
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 04:57 PM
To Dude 2.2I'm a bible scholar, intrested in its historic basis.You are incorrect in your assumption that homosexuality is not mentioned in the bible.Lev 20:13"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."While I personally believe that this is an incorrect declaration, you must have the dignity to respect someone's religion.Also, the placement of this verse varies from edition to edition, but is always in Lev 20.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 05:26 PM
If "God" loves "his" children SOO much...he wouldn't kill off his gay children. That would make him just as bad as Hilter was...Oh wait, Hilter killed gay people too...Guess he was playing God for a while.But, eitherway, I stand firm on my belief that gay people should be allowed to marry. Regardless of what the Church says, the bible was written by humans. Humans, as others have mentioned, hate differences amongst people. Besides, that passage (Lev 20:13) was part of the Old Testament. BEFORE Jesus.
Edited by ffreak343, 26 July 2007 - 05:26 PM.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 05:40 PM
Personally, I don't really care about gay marriage that much. I mean seriously! Gay people aren't really out to kill anybody or anything so I don't care.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 06:28 PM
Gays should be allowed to marry in my opinion.Marriage is not all about sex. Neither is gay love.It is about love, how much you care for a person,whether man or woman.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 06:44 PM
Sure, go have gay marriage, but they certainly won't be having any children that are genetically related ¬_¬. And what sigma mentioned from that verse, God had created man and woman for EACH OTHER!
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 06:54 PM
AGAIN, I am firmly for gay marriage.Anywho; ffreak343, these word were spoken by Moses, God's favorite prophet.This verse is in a speech about many unapproved sex practices, mostly about adultry.If you're wondering, relationships with animals is the next chapter.
Edited by tsigma6, 26 July 2007 - 09:27 PM.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 11:10 PM
Dangit! I missed the opening of this topic. But at least I can dish out some pain right now.Ffreak 343, it's rather obvious that you haven't been reading your Bible. Your claim that homosexuality is not addressed in the Bible has already been blown out of the water. Then, for whatever reason, you retracted that statement and narrowed the claim down to the idea that homosexuality isn't addressed in the New Testament. What difference, in your mind, Jesus makes to the scriptures his supposed Father handed down, I cannot guess. But let me go ahead and correct you.I Corinthians 6:9-10:Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers - none of these will inherit the kingdom of God.Jude, chapter 7: (sorry, I forgot the verses)Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.Romans 1:26:For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse of unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.Your ludicrous claims concerning the Bible's (and therefore Christianity's) stand on homosexuality are laughable. In no way, shape, or form does the Bible ever condone homosexuality, or "sodomy." Please, cease and desist these claims before you are forced into narrowing down your "convenience" Bible not into solely the New Testament, but into one or two chapters.As to the original question: gay marriage is, unfortunately, illegal in most of the United States. Aside from religious bigotry, I do not see any reason that such marriage should be illegal. An argument concerning the idea that gay people cannot naturally have children is irrelevant, as it assumes that procreation is moral and non-procreation is immoral, a completely unfounded premise. If that was the case, China would be a country boiling in its own vile sins and Mexico would be one of the purest nations ever.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 11:24 PM
The thing is, if GLBT people can get married like everyone else, it's not like all heterosexual marriage would stop. I don't see the big problem letting people choose stuff for themselves, unless it's like murder or something.Also, you may believe that gay marriage is wrong. Then don't get married to someone the same sex. It's just like the fact that I feel abortion is wrong, but if someone iss going to get one, you might as well make it safer to their health, etc. BTW not everyone is Christian, so thrusting your beliefs on others won't change their mind.
Edited by VampGamer, 26 July 2007 - 11:30 PM.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 11:46 PM
I don't see why marrige with the same sex is that difficult to graspPART ARE PARTSThe main reason people have decided gay marrige is so wrong, is because they have been taught it is wrong.Like potty training, if you peed in your pants you would be told " bad baby, NO bady, shame on you" and when you did what was RIGHT, and correct, you were rewarded. We, as humans, have been taught that union between two people of the same sex is WRONG, and taboo. But who were we told by, some great almighty book, that tells of wonderfull feats of amazment. Logically, someone would have had to write this book. Who are we to say they were"told by god to write it". Now a days , isnt that something we would treat with medication? We follow the words of a book as though they were preciose and holy.I am not saying outright that a being above us has not created the earth, or the universe, for that matter. I am saying thatthe stories of grandure are aprroved of by the church. That what you read in the bible, some of it may not be true, and that we as humans want to belive it because, the storyies provide us with the answers we want about how we got here. Now i know there are flaws in my apparent argument, but i doubt i care. People should express themselves how they want to, and not need to follow the coarse a community has chose for them. BE open-minded about same sex union, unless you feel you are above there community. I have friends that are homosexual, and they act like everyone else, They deserve to be treated how everyone treats straight people. They are not lower class, dirty, grundgy, taboo. They are only taboo because you have be taught that it is true.
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Posted 27 July 2007 - 12:06 AM
i really hate it and it should not be legalized.....y would a man wanna luv a man anywayz?????
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Posted 27 July 2007 - 12:18 AM
Well, if it isn't a threat to me I'm not going to worry about it too much. But if (if being the key word) gay marriage became more common than hetero marriage (like gay marriages to hetero 75:25) then there'd be a problem. It would be tougher for people (like me) to find someone of the opposite sex to date and marry. While on a positive note, the human population growthrate would decrease (you know, if gays haven't invented a way to have children at some time). However, I really don't think this would happen as many people have different views across the world that this kind of majority of gays>straits would not happen. Well, there COULD be a possibility, but call me in a eternity when 75% of people are having gay marriages 
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Posted 27 July 2007 - 12:19 AM
so what ur saying is....china needs to have more same sex marriage???Well, if it isn't a threat to me I'm not going to worry about it too much. But if (if being the key word) gay marriage became more common than hetero marriage (like gay marriages to hetero 75:25) then there'd be a problem. It would be tougher for people (like me) to find someone of the opposite sex to date and marry. While on a positive note, the human population growthrate would decrease (you know, if gays haven't invented a way to have children at some time). However, I really don't think this would happen as many people have different views across the world that this kind of majority of gays>straits would not happen. Well, there COULD be a possibility, but call me in a eternity when 75% of people are having gay marriages
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Posted 27 July 2007 - 12:23 AM
why not? everything else is getting legalised.
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Posted 27 July 2007 - 12:26 AM
First off, I don't read the bible as an Atheist...I did maybe about 7 years ago, till I removed all my faith and tossed it aside.Now:"i really hate it and it should not be legalized.....y would a man wanna luv a man anywayz?????"Not only is this terrile grammar, but...has nothing to help it. "i really hate it" yes thats nice. But why? Do they bother you? Do they want to marry you? Do they even realize who you are (homophobic excluded)? Probably not to all those.And as for the bible stories:I noticed no one said anything to my first comment on my last post:"If 'God' made gay people...why would he want to kill them off? That would make him no better than Hilter...Oh wait...Hilter DID kill gay people...Hmm, guess he was carrying out 'divine intervention'" Thats the gist of it anyway."Gay" is not some disease that has no cure. Does that make the person some sort of beast human? NO. Why are you referring to a book written by man anyway? Its biased in that fashion, since all humans have some sort of biased in them. "It was written by Moses..." At last I heard, Moses was still human. Jesus' other followers? They were human also. For all we know, the bible was written by some random soothsayer.ANYWAYS....I still stand by the fact that I believe gay marriage is fine. They wouldn't be bothering you. They probably won't want to marry you. Nor do they even know you. So, in return, they should be allowed to marry. Marriage is about LOVE, not what a book says, sex, or religion as the Church says. I also stand corrected by my bible statement. I havn't read it in...7 or 8 years. I've gathered my faith up and tossed it aside.
Edited by ffreak343, 27 July 2007 - 01:19 AM.
