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should gays have the right to marry? (homosexual marriage thread)


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 01:48 PM

Gay marriages are the worst thing that hit humanity. It is a complete sin against God.

You're really going to kick yourself one day, when you mature and realize how stupid it is to hold such hatred in your heart.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:15 PM

You're really going to kick yourself one day, when you mature and realize how stupid it is to hold such hatred in your heart.

But still we hate them. Can you explain why we hate people? And why the hater is so big? If everyone would just say ok and don't bother doing more damage than we already have done, it would be better to live.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:41 PM

Of course they should. Though using the word marriage only serves to create friction with religious groups so the policy of labelling them within the secular lexicon (ie. civil partnership and the like) is a good idea.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:42 PM

If I want to get married so that I can have the right to visit my boyfriend in the hospital when he's sick, to be on his health insurance, etc, then I should be able to.

I believe this person makes a very good point. Homosexuals get married because they want to express their love for each other and to get the benefits of being married like being able to visit their partner when they're sick not to sin against God and hurt the world. They get married for the same reasons hedrosexuals do and that is why gay marriages should be allowed.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 06:37 PM

But still we hate them. Can you explain why we hate people? And why the hater is so big? If everyone would just say ok and don't bother doing more damage than we already have done, it would be better to live.

People hate other people because of their own insecurities and an inability to deal with them. Instead of facing up to their own problems and dealing with their own inadequacies, it's easier to project their self-hatred onto other people.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 07:29 PM

Everone has the natural right to pursue happiness. Messing around with the instution of marriage does allow gay people to possibly be happy, but only by compromising the ideals of others. Why do they deserve more rights than those people whose ideas they just shot down? I'm against gay marriage simply because many people would become very destructive if this were to be legalized.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 07:32 PM

That's a tricky one. The idea of two people of the same gender bringing up adopted kids dosen't sound wrong to me, but whether it should be recognised in a christian ceremony..I wish it was a different word from 'marriage'..
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 08:00 PM

Everone has the natural right to pursue happiness. Messing around with the instution of marriage does allow gay people to possibly be happy, but only by compromising the ideals of others. Why do they deserve more rights than those people whose ideas they just shot down? I'm against gay marriage simply because many people would become very destructive if this were to be legalized.

What rights of others are being compromised by allowing gay people to marry? The right to be a bigot?And if you're against gay marriage because of the absurd notion that people would become very destructive, does that mean you would have been against outlawing slavery in America because people might have become destructive?

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 08:07 PM

That's a tricky one. The idea of two people of the same gender bringing up adopted kids dosen't sound wrong to me, but whether it should be recognised in a christian ceremony..I wish it was a different word from 'marriage'..

Christian ceremony? Many marriages today have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. In my country, all you have to do is call City Hall, apply for a marriage license and sign a document. Christian traditions need not be involved. Heck, if marriage is a 'Christian ceremony', why in the world are atheists allowed to marry? Not to mention all the other religions out there...
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 08:42 PM

People hate other people because of their own insecurities and an inability to deal with them. Instead of facing up to their own problems and dealing with their own inadequacies, it's easier to project their self-hatred onto other people.

OK, yeah I agree with you. People are getting more and more violent and they hurt other people and run from their own problems instead of fighting back. Still, there is no end of this thread. There should be a poll.

It is okay fore me, but i don´t think they should get kids :D

But think if they kids need someone, and if there is only homo people that want the child. What should we do then? You are speaking as if other people, example gays or blacks don't have the same rights in the government. That's all wrong.Dette er mitt forum ikke ta det fra meg nårstad haha :D Men allikevel så er jeg enig med deg, homser burde da gå gjennom en test eller to for å få lov.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 09:14 PM

Christian ceremony? Many marriages today have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. In my country, all you have to do is call City Hall, apply for a marriage license and sign a document. Christian traditions need not be involved. Heck, if marriage is a 'Christian ceremony', why in the world are atheists allowed to marry? Not to mention all the other religions out there...

I stand corrected *Ducks away from riposte/s like a little choo choo train chugging away across the countryside*The word 'marriage' tradionally has connotations with religion, and people I know in England would recognise an atheists 'marriage' as a 'civil union', if it was recognised by society and not by the church, whereas the word 'marriage' would be reserved for christian couples. But there's a whole wide world out there...
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 10:58 PM

I don't have a personal problem with gay marriage. If they're not committing a serious crime, I'd say legalize it.Gay people are just like everybody else, except their sexual preferences are different.
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Posted 04 December 2007 - 12:54 PM

Some people argue that gay marriage is an attack on the institution of marriage, and that if it is legalized, people won't take marriage seriously. This seems like an odd argument to me; it seems to suggest that the married happiness of straight people is not only the business of gays, but even their responsibility.Suppose that someone stated the following:"Eating cake at a wedding ceremony is a blasphemy against my faith. Anybody who eats cake at a wedding ceremony is behaving unnaturally. This behavior should be banned, because it cheapens the sanctity of marriage."Would this argument be accepted? What if people who were anti-cake were the majority?The counter, of course, is that cake has nothing to do with the definition of marriage, whereas the sexes of the participants does. But in that case, the anti-gay marriage argument comes down to a bit of circular logic: "It's not marriage because it isn't marriage."In short:A) The social consequences of gay marriages for straight people seem to depend entirely on how others react to gay marriage, and not any wrongdoing from the gays.B) If there are no other consequences, the argument from the definition of marriage is hollow.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 02:57 PM

If marriage is so sacred, why not go after the heterosexual couples who are causing around half of all marriages to end in divorce? They're not exactly doing a good job of keeping a so-called sacred institution sacred, are they?People who say they're not against gay relationships but are against gay marriages are just trying to be bigots with a clear conscience. It's a way to hold on to their bigotry while still trying to convince themselves and others that they're somehow open minded.
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Posted 04 December 2007 - 02:58 PM

definitely not. It's not natural. And more over, it's a sin
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Posted 04 December 2007 - 03:02 PM

definitely not. It's not natural. And more over, it's a sin

Without resorting to religious dogma, can you explain why gay marriage is 'not natural' and 'a sin'?
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Posted 04 December 2007 - 09:41 PM

Gay marriage is better than gay premarital sex. Whether it's the lesser of two evils, I'm undecided.
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 03:20 PM

The world is homophobic. I am scared of that homophobic world, not because i'm gay, because that they're so spiteful > . >. Personaly, i don't give a damn about what a gay perosn does. They can do whatever they want, like have weddings and cakes and blah blah and i'll carry on with my hermit life (and dellusions).

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:19 PM

Well it's obvious why it's not natural. But I don't see why it would be a sin. Love is the most important thing in the world. (apparently)But I'm all for it. I've got lots of gay friends (I'm a theatre major, go figure :wub: ) and I want them to be happy as anyone.
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:39 PM

Absolutely... Homosexually is not wrong.. It's life and no-one can dissagree.. Homosexual people could say they think Hetrosexuality is wrong - Then the Hetrosexuals will disagree.. Like when two girls hug - They're just friends, of course.. When two BOYS hug (However).. They're ''Gay''..It's so sad.Back to point.. Yes they should be allowed. :wub:
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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:32 AM

NO.gay people are pretty much screwed. they don't reproduce, they're useless.

Theres lots of straight people that are unable to reproduce, should they not be able to get married?
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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:36 AM

Theres lots of straight people that are unable to reproduce, should they not be able to get married?

those people are not healthy. not natural.oh and they have the intention of reproduction, they don't like it up the ass.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:57 AM

My, aren't you the pleasant one? Gay people may not reproduce, but they certainly have their uses. For one, they help control the population.And what's even better is that they annoy and frustrate people like you.That's great news to me.
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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:59 AM

yes gay marriages should b allowed only for lesbians and only if they show their bodies =)
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Posted 06 December 2007 - 01:00 AM

those people are not healthy. not natural.oh and they have the intention of reproduction, they don't like it up the ass.

Hmm, clever stuff, so should gay marriage be allowed? "No, because it ain't right and people do sex cos they want to make new babies, that's why straight people never argue for abortion, right? Because they're gay deep down as well, because they don't want to bring babies into the world, which is what truly straight people want, bringing babies into the world, because that's how people operate without them even realising, because we're all machines except some of us are dirty machines, -"That's the worst argument in the entire world, and I'm guessing your going to champion it to the end.
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