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Is FF9 the least popular in the FF series??
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 06:01 AM
It seems to be true that FF9 is the least popular series, probably because it release date was so close to FF10 in PS2. But personally, I like it over FF 7,8,10, or 12.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 10:11 AM
Probably the best of the PS's FF games. The story is madly underrated and is sinister as hell. I guess some FF noobs can't handle chibi-style character presentation. Grapohics is amongst the best in JRPG on PS. The characters are likeable and have believable development. The music is the best whole sound track since FFIV & FFVI (FFVII and FFVII had some outstsanding tracks but not consistant overall). The main villain is argued amongst fans of the series (that's not a raving fanboy of any one particular games) as on of the best in the series. The game is also a great tribute to all the games before it as well.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 11:21 AM
I always disliked ff8 the most, mostly because of the "draw" magic system.FF9 was a great game tho..
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 11:24 AM
ff9 is not the least popular final fantasy, ffx-2 is. no other ff can come close to as bad as that one.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 12:58 PM
I love FF9 it was a FF that represented the past FF games
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 05:54 AM
I hated Final Fantasy IX. It was just a terrible storyline with terrible characters. And the game was way too childish. And the characters were all far too immature. The only likable character in that entire game is Amarant.
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 08:36 AM
I'm not trying to flame you but would you like to back-up your opinion. From playing through this game twice this game is without a doubt amongst the top of the pile of FF titles. I suggest you play it again and tell me what's childish about it. Perhaps you are being to childish judging it on the way the characters are presented as I can't relate to your opinion. The characters were not immature. Do play it through again, or if you haven't got off the first disk I suggest that you do. It has one of the most sinister story of all the FF games and has the most believable character development in the series. Look to be honest if you don't like it that cool but please if you can relate how this game is 'childish' and 'immature' to the storyline and characters, then your opinion might have some substance. It would also help if you associate your opinion of this game in comparison to another FF that you think is more um... mature and less childish.I hated Final Fantasy IX. It was just a terrible storyline with terrible characters. And the game was way too childish. And the characters were all far too immature. The only likable character in that entire game is Amarant.
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 10:57 AM
really? i thought it was one of the good FF games in the series.. i enjoyed passing this game it was funI have to go with him, FFII was horrible, no one liked it, and in defense of FF X-2, it wasn't supposed to be a full game, they were testing out new ideas. The game was just supposed to be a wrap up to the story of FFX.
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 06:54 AM
I'm a fan of the Final Fantasy series and I've played most of the other ones, but not 9. I don't even know anthing about so it just might be the least popular
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:46 AM
Sinister? Sinister doesn't make a plot good. Look at all those horror flicks that are out nowadays. They are "sinister," and they are terrible. Most believable character development? I couldn't care for the how they develop, seeing as how most of them, if not all, are all predictable. That's why it's believable. Because you could see them developing that way. IX also felt more "cartoon-y," than VIII. That's where the childish comment comes from. VII and VIII had a serious plot line with few funny, light hearted moments. IX had far too many of those, and it got tiring. And yes, I've beat the game. Necron, Hades, and Trance Kuja fail to me. Only Ozma was too hard, then again, I didn't really care for the Choco part of the game. Another reason why IX fails, is that the card game was completely horrendous in comparison to VIII.Perhaps you are being to childish judging it on the way the characters are presented as I can't relate to your opinion. The characters were not immature. Do play it through again, or if you haven't got off the first disk I suggest that you do. It has one of the most sinister story of all the FF games and has the most believable character development in the series. Look to be honest if you don't like it that cool but please if you can relate how this game is 'childish' and 'immature' to the storyline and characters, then your opinion might have some substance. It would also help if you associate your opinion of this game in comparison to another FF that you think is more um... mature and less childish.
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 10:09 AM
I felt as if this game was good...but not great.Yes the characters are childish, but then again they know Zidane. -_-I've played it through 3 times, just to be sure I did everything. level 99 for everyone, best weapons, all abilities mastered, all blue magic...Yes I know I have little to no life...Haha. But not the point.The only thing I thought were bad...were these two things: Why is Beatrix a GOD when you fight her, then you get her as a party member and she sucks badly?And...Why is ozma the only really difficult boss in that game? Necron was poo. The only thing hard about him was grand cross, and...Big bang from Final Fantasy IV was more deadly -_- Hades was close to being a joke boss. Kuja? Don't make me laugh (well...got to give him credit over Sephiroth...At least Kuja didn't need a rock to destroy the world).
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 11:41 AM
heck yes FF9 rocked my socks off! woot woot!!
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 01:38 PM
You are absolutely right to say sinister doesn't make a good plot. I agree with this one hundred percent. I merely mentioned it in jest to you take on the game being childish and immature. You mentioned how this game was immature yet you haven't backed that up how it's as you said. From this quote though basically your opinion that this game is childish due due to the cartoony appearance? Wow you must be noob to the Japanese anime world where chibi appearance does not always mean it's childish or immature. Perhaps it's you being immature in your judgement of this game. Do you even realise the reason they went with Chibi character design? That's because all FF games up to that point (except FFVIII) use that style. It's a 3D presentation of traditional FF character appearance. Heck even FFVII characters were chibi unless you want to deny it due to some fanboyish reason. This game after all went ahead to step back on proportion correctness of FFVIII characters and tribute the classic chibi appearance of FF characters. The game was afterall a tribute no!? To me the chibi allows more expression and personality from the characters. That's just me though.Predictable? Hmmm the revelation of Zidane's background and original purpose is hardly predictable. Perhap you mean the Kuja/Zidane and Cecil/Golbez tribute? Well predictable or not is subjective to different people no!? We can't make our opinon as factual statement afterall. For such a game filled with lighthearted moment as you stated there seems to be more moments of despair than FFVII and FFVIII combined (minus the emo and angst). [MINOR SPOILER] War, genocide, greed, betrayal, puppeteering, loss of loved ones, assimilation of gaia and terra, realisation of own likely short life-span [END SPOILER]... Those are not serious? Perhaps you missed them. Anyhow hardly lighthearted me think. Maybe some of those were cliche to jaded RPGamer like us but it was done well nonetheless IMO (much less convoluted than FFVII and FFVIII but that's not to say I don't like those). The small moments of lightheart which seem to have stuck and messed your perception of this game were merely there to balance out the darker moments. FFIX characters each play uniquely in battles unlike FFVII and FFVII which each could be customised to be pretty much clones of each other in abilities (all excapt for maybe limite break). Perhaps you like that which is all good. FFIX characters each have unique abilties differentiating their usefulness in combat. That to me is pretty sweet. The card game in FFVIII was certainly better but at least this one doesn't try to be exactly the same. You gotta give kudos for them to not do exactly the same thing. Afterall each FF strives to be unque from others. Though FFIX is a tribute of the rest of the series before it, it still manages to tell it's own story well and has several great mini-games if you as a player choose to pursue. Yes the game wasn't all that challenging but that depends how hardcore you are with leveling up and strengthening your characters. I admit for FF veterans like us it was relatively easy because we tend to be gungho with strengthening our characters. I don't think that should distract anyone from enjoying the story considering how well it was paced. This game tells it's story like a good fairy tale outside the battles.Sinister? Sinister doesn't make a plot good. Look at all those horror flicks that are out nowadays. They are "sinister," and they are terrible. Most believable character development? I couldn't care for the how they develop, seeing as how most of them, if not all, are all predictable. That's why it's believable. Because you could see them developing that way. IX also felt more "cartoon-y," than VIII. That's where the childish comment comes from. VII and VIII had a serious plot line with few funny, light hearted moments. IX had far too many of those, and it got tiring. And yes, I've beat the game. Necron, Hades, and Trance Kuja fail to me. Only Ozma was too hard, then again, I didn't really care for the Choco part of the game. Another reason why IX fails, is that the card game was completely horrendous in comparison to VIII.
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 10:11 PM
Immature comes along with the 9 year old character, Vivi. His mere presence in the game has to tone the game incredibly. Because he is, 9 years old. Also because the game is seemingly targeted at a younger audience. Childish, I feel, goes hand in hand with immature. So I've been only backing one up because I feel they are the seem thing. And the cartoony appearance I feel is a real complaint. I don't dig the "chibi," of the other games either. I liked how VIII looked. Though I would hardly say the 8-bit Final Fantasy character's were hardly "chibi," on purpose. And quite frankly, I don't think that VII's characters could be considered chibi. They don't appear to be miniature version of anything, and they seemed to scale with the whole game.You mentioned how this game was immature yet you haven't backed that up how it's as you said. From this quote though basically your opinion that this game is childish due due to the cartoony appearance? Wow you must be noob to the Japanese anime world where chibi appearance does not always mean it's childish or immature. Perhaps it's you being immature in your judgement of this game. Do you even realise the reason they went with Chibi character design? That's because all FF games up to that point (except FFVIII) use that style. It's a 3D presentation of traditional FF character appearance. Heck even FFVII characters were chibi unless you want to deny it due to some fanboyish reason. This game after all went ahead to step back on proportion correctness of FFVIII characters and tribute the classic chibi appearance of FF characters. The game was afterall a tribute no!? To me the chibi allows more expression and personality from the characters. That's just me though.
I'll give you that, the Zidane character plotline was not as predictable as the rest of the story. But I couldn't have cared less for how Zidane's development turned out, since I disliked his character, and nearly found him unbearable. Maybe it was just me.Predictable? Hmmm the revelation of Zidane's background and original purpose is hardly predictable. Perhap you mean the Kuja/Zidane and Cecil/Golbez tribute?
But I don't want the lighter moments. Those shouldn't happen. There should be very few of those IMO. If you're going to have a dark storyline, you keep it dark. Balancing the dark/light out is silly. If you're aiming for a "sinister" plot line, you can't do it with having as many of the joking/lighthearted/silly moments in IX.For such a game filled with lighthearted moment as you stated there seems to be more moments of despair than FFVII and FFVIII combined (minus the emo and angst). [MINOR SPOILER] War, genocide, greed, betrayal, puppeteering, loss of loved ones, assimilation of gaia and terra, realisation of own likely short life-span [END SPOILER]... Those are not serious? Perhaps you missed them. Anyhow hardly lighthearted me think. Maybe some of those were cliche to jaded RPGamer like us but it was done well nonetheless IMO (much less convoluted than FFVII and FFVIII but that's not to say I don't like those). The small moments of lightheart which seem to have stuck and messed your perception of this game were merely there to balance out the darker moments.
VII's characters had different abilities too. There weapons and style of attack were characterized my the Materia you put into the weapon. VIII was also similar in the Junction system, and giving your character's abilities. Also their abilities were customizable with the GF's they had assigned to them. The GF's learned abilities strongly affected combat.FFIX characters each play uniquely in battles unlike FFVII and FFVII which each could be customised to be pretty much clones of each other in abilities (all excapt for maybe limite break). Perhaps you like that which is all good. FFIX characters each have unique abilties differentiating their usefulness in combat. That to me is pretty sweet.
Yeah, I guess they deserve credit for not rehashing the card game, but why fix it if ain't broke?The card game in FFVIII was certainly better but at least this one doesn't try to be exactly the same. You gotta give kudos for them to not do exactly the same thing. Afterall each FF strives to be unque from others. Though FFIX is a tribute of the rest of the series before it, it still manages to tell it's own story well and has several great mini-games if you as a player choose to pursue.
It shouldn't distract from the overall game, but sadly, it does. It at least killed the "Boss" battles for me. And the Ozma part is silly. The hardest boss should be the Storyline boss, not a mini-game/mini-plot boss. Having to go through the trouble of that ridiculous Mognet and Chocobo digging, and for what? A Pumice Piece? That's not motivation to face him.Yes the game wasn't all that challenging but that depends how hardcore you are with leveling up and strengthening your characters. I admit for FF veterans like us it was relatively easy because we tend to be gungho with strengthening our characters. I don't think that should distract anyone from enjoying the story considering how well it was paced. This game tells it's story like a good fairy tale outside the battles.
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 11:36 PM
[quot[/quote]yes final fantasy 9 is the best final fantasy
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 12:12 AM
ff9 is good game same as ff8, but ff7 is the best jrpg on psx
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 12:36 AM
FF9 brings back the classic FF with the crystal and the 4character party system and all that other good stuff. Materia and Junction were just way out there and everyone seemingly liked it. For me, I'd rather wear a helmet, arm guard, armor, weapon and accs rather than nothing
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 02:21 AM
Vivi might be young but with him explores a sad realization of one's mortality. Not to mention he question as to whether he's a soulless created being or alive just like everyone. It also touches on racial issues or xenophobia in the reactions he gets from others.Game semingly targeted at younger audience. That's just your assumption. Childish and immature is two different thing. Look up definition again please. Yes you don't have to like the chibi style looks since everyone has different preferences. I don't see how that can make a game childish or immature in anyway. You can deny if you want but yes FFVII caharacters also have big head on disproportionate body too. Chibi characters never made FFVII immature afterall and FFIX isn't lacking in story department to that said title. Well I suppose if you don't like the protagonist you may not enjoy the game as much. That said I don't like Cloud but still enjoyed FFVII. Zidane is likeable IMO. To each their own I suppose...You don't want the lighter moments? Hmmm.. funny that FFVIII and FFVII also have their funny moments too if I recall. I wonder why they didn't make the whole of those game constantly dark and sinister? You're fooling yourself is you think FFIX is the only FF with lighthearted moments. I see a balance of lighthearted part in many supposedly dark themed RPGs and I don't see anything wrong with any of that. May I ask which lighthearted moment seems out of place to youin FFIX?The only different abilities in FFVII and FFVIII are the limit break. Face it that each character and can be GF junctioned or configured with materia not unlike one another. Why fix it if it aint broke? Simple. Each FF strive to play completely different from one another somehow or another.Minigames distracts from main gameplay has been like that in most JRPG not just FFIX. Just like most other FF mini gmaes it rewards you with something. Pumice piece is not useless you do realise right? Prize for beating Omega Weapon in FFVIII is anymore rewarding?"The hardest boss should be the Storyline boss, not a mini-game/mini-plot boss" what? You do realise that in most of the FF since FFV the hardest of storyline boss is hardly even close to challenge of the toughest side-quest bosses. Ozma is a side challenge and arguably the mos difficult boss in the game not unlike Read Weapon from FFVII and Omega Weapon from FFVIII. I admit to liking particularly how tough Ultimecia is in FFVIII but she's no Omega Weapon in that game either.Lastly your bias is amazing. KudosImmature comes along with the 9 year old character, Vivi. His mere presence in the game has to tone the game incredibly. Because he is, 9 years old. Also because the game is seemingly targeted at a younger audience. Childish, I feel, goes hand in hand with immature. So I've been only backing one up because I feel they are the seem thing. And the cartoony appearance I feel is a real complaint. I don't dig the "chibi," of the other games either. I liked how VIII looked. Though I would hardly say the 8-bit Final Fantasy character's were hardly "chibi," on purpose. And quite frankly, I don't think that VII's characters could be considered chibi. They don't appear to be miniature version of anything, and they seemed to scale with the whole game. I'll give you that, the Zidane character plotline was not as predictable as the rest of the story. But I couldn't have cared less for how Zidane's development turned out, since I disliked his character, and nearly found him unbearable. Maybe it was just me.But I don't want the lighter moments. Those shouldn't happen. There should be very few of those IMO. If you're going to have a dark storyline, you keep it dark. Balancing the dark/light out is silly. If you're aiming for a "sinister" plot line, you can't do it with having as many of the joking/lighthearted/silly moments in IX.VII's characters had different abilities too. There weapons and style of attack were characterized my the Materia you put into the weapon. VIII was also similar in the Junction system, and giving your character's abilities. Also their abilities were customizable with the GF's they had assigned to them. The GF's learned abilities strongly affected combat.Yeah, I guess they deserve credit for not rehashing the card game, but why fix it if ain't broke?It shouldn't distract from the overall game, but sadly, it does. It at least killed the "Boss" battles for me. And the Ozma part is silly. The hardest boss should be the Storyline boss, not a mini-game/mini-plot boss. Having to go through the trouble of that ridiculous Mognet and Chocobo digging, and for what? A Pumice Piece? That's not motivation to face him.
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 02:33 AM
Yeah, I'm not going to lie...I'm just a trollLastly your bias is amazing. Kudos
I'll accept defeat here, seeing as you clearly won't give up. It was pretty fun while it lasted.
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 03:33 AM
I thought that game was awsome!!!I loved the summons in that game!!!It even had a great story line.I loved everything about FF9.
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 08:28 AM
FF9 started out really strong, but it became boring and irritating around the halfway mark or so. I wouldn't say its the LEAST popular, but I wouldn't say its the toast of the gaming world (not that it doesn't have its fans). Its kind of in the middle of the series hiearchy in my opinion.
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 09:53 AM
I liked FFIX... It wasn't my absolute favorite (I'm torn between FFIV and FFVI( but it certainly ranks up there.As for the "least popular" (in the MAIN FF series), you have remember that the majority of FF fans are flat-out jaded. Many either started on/after FFVII and thus consider it to be the holy grail of RPGs while simultaneously NEVER playing the previous games. I've met people who've never played FFI through FFVI and yet blindly consider FFVII to be the best of the series. That said, the "least popular" can vary between FFII (NES, which had a leveling system from hell), FFVIII (junction was tedious), FFIX (throwback to the old days), FFX (questionable plot and character(s)), FFX-2 (see FFX) and FFXI (its a MMO, what else needs to be said?). Take your pick and your pick of reasons...
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 12:26 PM
I would not say that it is the least popular but personaly I don't like it much. Don't really know why but I don't like the grafics much and well the game did not really got me in the mood of the game. I felt like a spectator of a cheap cartoon.
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 12:36 PM
It took me about 3 days to beat ozma in the cemetery of the chocbo santuary......
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:15 PM
I loved FF9. FF7 was my favorite, then FF9, and I hated FF8. Squall... grr! Such an interesting plot, with so many side quests and sweet characters! Wooey!
