God real or not?

Mootrix, I've posted quite a few questions in this thread. If there's no God, tell me how you can answer them.Just to refresh your memory:1) Where did the first bacteria come from? Even assuming that we evolved from bacteria, they still had to come from somewhere. They didn't just spring up out of the lump of rock called earth.2) Where did all the original matter in the universe come from? The Big Bang theory says that all matter came from energy. Where did the energy come from? Nobody has been able to answer me yet.It's all well and good that you believe there is no God. Now back that statement up for me.

Mootrix, I've posted quite a few questions in this thread. If there's no God, tell me how you can answer them.Just to refresh your memory:1) Where did the first bacteria come from? Even assuming that we evolved from bacteria, they still had to come from somewhere. They didn't just spring up out of the lump of rock called earth.2) Where did all the original matter in the universe come from? The Big Bang theory says that all matter came from energy. Where did the energy come from? Nobody has been able to answer me yet.It's all well and good that you believe there is no God. Now back that statement up for me.

it always was there ?! LOL!

Mootrix, I've posted quite a few questions in this thread.  If there's no God, tell me how you can answer them.Just to refresh your memory:1) Where did the first bacteria come from?  Even assuming that we evolved from bacteria, they still had to come from somewhere.  They didn't just spring up out of the lump of rock called earth.2) Where did all the original matter in the universe come from?  The Big Bang theory says that all matter came from energy.  Where did the energy come from?  Nobody has been able to answer me yet.It's all well and good that you believe there is no God.  Now back that statement up for me.

it always was there ?! LOL!

That's not a suitable answer to either question. Especially not the first one.Scientists know for a fact that life first appeared on earth a few billion years ago. So don't tell me that bacteria was "always there". ;)And energy doesn't just sit in a ball waiting to explode. There had to be some way that the energy that supposedly blew up and made the universe was rounded up and formed into that little ball, or created in the shape of that little ball. If God didn't do it, tell me how it happened.

Edited by mplacki, 18 February 2005 - 09:04 PM.

lol, its a question thats never solved or will be solved so the only thing we can do is give a opinion !

...I've posted quite a few questions in this thread. If there's no God, tell me how you can answer them.

I'll try to answer this based on any kind of knoweldge besides my stupid imagination!1) Where did the first bacteria come from? Even assuming that we evolved from bacteria, they still had to come from somewhere. They didn't just spring up out of the lump of rock called earth.The first living cell could be the result of just some chemical reaction that could happen anywhere in the addecuate circustances. Even if the odds are extremely huge it's still possible.2) Where did all the original matter in the universe come from? The Big Bang theory says that all matter came from energy. Where did the energy come from? Nobody has been able to answer me yet.The same matter and energy has always been here. It's just recycle over time in an endless cycle of destruction and creation. Let me see how I believe the universe goes. Let's start from our current point of time, the universe is continuously expanding and at the same time large amounts of masses concentrate on dark holes and other celestial phenomena. Next step, the huge gravity of these masses finally start bringing the universe together again, time goes backwards (?). Now we end up with a whole composed of all mass and energy in the universe. Another bing bang. Since time is going forward again this "new" universe actually exist parralel to our "old" universe. The cycle repeats itself until all possible parralel univereses are created just to start over again in another freaking circular cycle. My point? None really.

Also,most of the Bible's literature is just made up stories by people that believed in religion,for it is not possible for an world-wide flood.Here are some more examples.actually, the bible says that there was a large warter tank, so-to-speak, in the sky, and when the world went too far downhill, God hit the PURGE button, and i have already said how the animals would fit on the arc.It's not possible to create the world in seven days.It is layed out very simply in the Bible, God with his infinite power created the earth then the seas, etc he took his time even, and to God there is no time baiscally, he can bend it and warp it to meet his needs, but he could have done it in an instant.The Garden of Eden is just false,because no apples can tell you right from wrong.they werent apples, the were simply fruit, and after Adam and eve ate one the tree was no more because it served no more purpose, there was sin.As for Jesus in the desert for forty days,the devil was just mostly a hallucination.actually the hallucinations would have taken a few days to appear..The Walls of Jericho can't just fall down after a week of walking around it.they did what God sais and he rewarded them for it and destroyed the walls of jericho and gave them back thier landPeace,Ludakris.___---Edit---___ill be back in a bit, i need some food nurishment.. im a growing boy you know

Edited by The_1ron_lung, 19 February 2005 - 03:00 AM.

Also,most of the Bible's literature is just made up stories by people that believed in religion,for it is not possible for an world-wide flood.Here are some more examples.actually, the bible says that there was a large warter tank, so-to-speak, in the sky, and when the world went too far downhill, God hit the PURGE button, and i have already said how the animals would fit on the arc.It's not possible to create the world in seven days.It is layed out very simply in the Bible, God with his infinite power created the earth then the seas, etc he took his time even, and to God there is no time baiscally, he can bend it and warp it to meet his needs, but he could have done it in an instant.The Garden of Eden is just false,because no apples can tell you right from wrong.they werent apples, the were simply fruit, and after Adam and eve ate one the tree was no more because it served no more purpose, there was sin.As for Jesus in the desert for forty days,the devil was just mostly a hallucination.actually the hallucinations would have taken a few days to appear..The Walls of Jericho can't just fall down after a week of walking around it.they did what God sais and he rewarded them for it and destroyed the walls of jericho and gave them back thier landPeace,Ludakris.___---Edit---___ill be back in a bit, i need some food nurishment.. im a growing boy you know

1)*cough*No comment.2)God doesn't exist,so he could not create anything,it's up to the universe's will.3)In my Bible,the fruit were apples.4)It's actually possible to start getting hallucinations within a week in a desert.5)How can sturdy walls fall down to nothing?It probably crumbled to the unstable soil it was on,otherwise,it was not God's power.I'm just keeping my summary nice and short.I'm sick currently,got the worst sneeze right now.Peace,Ludakris.

*cough* *cough*kinda getting sick of this..luda is righthahahahahahahahaoh well just adding to this trend again...religion in da hold..is a means of controlthink of it .....do you control religion or does it control you?where is God?.... what is his/her purpose? and if he/she does exist y would he let this controversy go on for so flipping long ....:rant:

I think the question is this. How does god exist?

:drool:don't know don't care must actually see if they really r aliens among us

well.. i am sorry to say i believe this thread is diesing as well... i guess weve exhausted all possible propositions and religons as to god or evolution... ill probably check the thread once a day to see if anything interesting comes up

yup getting tired of this bs ohh well we can't convince every rock head or grease nut that there is no GOD

i think os if it was not for him i world be dead i got shot at the bulits came ate me and hit the a thing back me and that mad me mad from them shoritg at me

i think os if it was not for him i world be dead i got shot at the bulits came ate me and hit the a thing back me and that mad me mad from them shoritg at me

Sorry,I don't speak Engrish.I agree though,this thread is dying out,for there is almost no more topics to cover,but come to think of it,we're almost to page nineteen...lol.Peace,Ludakris.

dude, i suggest you either a) take a typing class, or B) learn english

i know english i right fast

i know english i right fast

You can't say write right.Peace,Ludakris.

duh what does this have to do with the topicseriously:drool:

The first living cell could be the result of just some chemical reaction that could happen anywhere in the addecuate circustances. Even if the odds are extremely huge it's still possible.

You say the first living cell is just the result of a random chemical reaction. Think about that. That means that a few random chemicals interacted and transformed into a cell with a membrane, mitochondria, vacuoles, ribosomes, it's own DNA structure, and every other part that is required for a cell to function. Even if the first living thing was a virus (the simplest life form on earth), aside from the fact that it would die within hours due to the lack of a host, there is still the fact that chemicals couldn't randomly combine for a stiff outer shell, a complex DNA stucture (even a viruses DNA structure is very complex), and a nucleus. For one thing, were all these chemicals just lying around? I have yet to see or hear of a place on earth where all sorts of acids and bases and proteins just sit around waiting to be struck by lightning to become life.

Edited by mplacki, 19 February 2005 - 04:24 PM.

that is a really good question to ask It reminds me, to believe in science or beliefi choose science thoughreason more evidence to support their findings and conclusions they come up withi'm sure everyone could question if god is real or not

It reminds me, to believe in science or beliefi choose science though

What I don't understand is why you have to believe in either science or belief. Why can't you believe in both?Science explains the things that go on in our everyday world. Yet science has no power to explain what goes on inside our hearts and our feelings. That power rests solely with religion.Think about it: science is describing and studying the physical world. Religion is describing and studying the spiritual world. Why do people think they're contradictory?

What I don't understand is why you have to believe in either science or belief. Why can't you believe in both?

so?where is evidence that god exist!

Where is the evidence that he doesn't exist? I've pointed out some things here that science doesn't explain. How did the first bacteria develop? How did we, humans, develop? Evolution still has no solid proof. The Big Bang Theory is just that - a theory. You are willing to accept whatever a scientist in a lab puts forth as a theory with no proof, yet you firmly believe that my theory is invalid because there is no proof. And, for the record, I have provided a few examples of what I think constitutes proof.Every time science tries to explain something new, scientists develop a hypothesis about how the event occured. Some things science has never explained - and never will. For those things, my hypothesis is that there is indeed a God, who can create things and perform feats that baffles science. What's yours?

Edited by mplacki, 19 February 2005 - 05:08 PM.

my god is but not that drunken jesus guy

Then someone knows why does stone ages belive in all sorts of gods or what? It is because it is not INT enough or what, and why now do not belive in gods? I not really understand...