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Gen 1:26-28 26 And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.” 27 And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. 28 Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.”

I believe this is the scripture you're were talking about second not all christain faith belive in a trinty of some sort their are those who believe that God is one person and also in this scripture notice that it Said us meaning their was more then one person involved in creating the earth in my religion we believe it was Jesus that god was talking to

In what sense is man made “in God’s image”?In disclosing to his “master worker” the divine purpose to create mankind, God said: “Let us make man [’a‧dham′] in our image, according to our likeness.” (Ge 1:26, 27; Pr 8:30, 31; compare Joh 1:1-3; Col 1:15-17.) Note that the Scriptures do not say that God created man in the image of a wild beast or of a domestic animal or of a fish. Man was made “in God’s image”; he was a “son of God.” (Lu 3:38) As to the form or shape of God’s body, “at no time has anyone beheld God.” (1Jo 4:12) No one on earth knows what God’s glorious, heavenly, spiritual body looks like, so we cannot liken man’s body to God’s body. “God is a Spirit.”—Joh 4:24.Nevertheless, man is “in God’s image” in that he was created with moral qualities like those of God, namely, love and justice. (Compare Col 3:10.) He also has powers and wisdom above those of animals, so that he can appreciate the things that God enjoys and appreciates, such as beauty and the arts, speaking, reasoning, and similar processes of the mind and heart of which the animals are not capable. Moreover, man is capable of spirituality, of knowing and having communication with God. (1Co 2:11-16; Heb 12:9) For such reasons man was qualified to be God’s representative and to have in subjection the forms of creature life in the skies, on the earth, and in the sea.

this is from my notes so please enjoy and I hope this answer some of you're questions

Edited by The Foo Foo bunny Rriders, 30 April 2006 - 04:16 AM.

[ZeroUrashima]

I dont believe in what I cant see.Therefore I don't believe in God

You then doubt the exsistance of the atoms and protons. You doubt the exsistance of all that is not in front of your face. All the people dying in Sudan and India" They are dying but you can't see them right.

For people dying in Sudan and India comment, live reports and images are provided so you can see it. Besides, you never know whetever it is propanganda and stuff on some issues so yes, I don't always believe whatever is told in newspapers and stuff. For the atoms and protons, although the naked eye can't, you see many uses of it which can still be proof for you to "see" its existance while God cannot be "seen". The only thing that can be used to prove His existence is whatever Holy Book/Text exists in whatever religion you believe in which can pretty much be the equivalent of a fantasy novel since its content or use cannot be proven or be seen. So in short, I dont believe in God.

Edited by ZeroUrashima, 01 May 2006 - 06:07 PM.

[ZeroUrashima]

Content can not be proven? Hold the hell up. Almost everything from the bible has already been proven. Saying that none of the content is not be proven only exposes your ignorance. If you watch the history channel once a month then you would know that someone did lead the Isrealites out of egypt. Jesus in fact did exsist and was a real person. There was also Iraelites in Egypt as well. It's content cannot be seen? what can you read. Not proving God only makes him seem more majestic. Seriously would God like move the planets in perfect alignment to spell out God was here. Seriously if there is god and you complain about not finding any proof.

I'm not talking about historical aspects of it but aspects that concerns God, I'm saying the existence of God cannot be proven by what is written in the Holy Texts from the religion you believe it. I can pretty much make up a religion using historical aspects of it and say its content can be proven but that doesn't prove God exists. I'm sorry if I was ambiguous. Btw, your "every aspect of it can be proven" is pretty much meaningless since the Bible was rewritten many times, it isn't that hard to adapt it to make it sound more realistic. The planets moving in alignment so "perfectly" can be explained through Physical Laws. You said yourself he is not proven and making him more majectic comment is your personal opinion, I find that it makes His existence more faint and hard to believe in. Besides, even if He exist, I don't think I would really care as He doesn't interfere in our lives.Besides, even if you believe in God, it still doesn't get rid of the logical loop hole about where God came from.

Edited by ZeroUrashima, 02 May 2006 - 03:19 AM.

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there's something there, God or just...somethingand I've been getting the sneaky suspicion lately that the only reason I believe that is because I can't understand not existing (i.e. no life after death)

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... THIS OF WHAT I SAID IS TRUE......ANYONE ON DGEMU THAT STATES OTHERWISE FOR ANY REASON IS WRONG AND UNJUST AND THEIR STATEMENTS HAS NO MEANING AND IS ONLY FROM WHAT MAN THINKS WHICH IS WRONG.~~~~GOD BLESS~~~~.THE END.

Davin I admire you conviction toward god and all but really all you have said has been said in this thread already. Second you provide no proof to what you're saying which will make it hard to believe anything you're saying. (By which I mean that you have no scripture proof that what ever you say is true) So instead of helping your cause I believe you've have hurt it vecause many people today are hating preachers and people who claim their is a god and don't know god themselves (I'm not saying you don't know god) because these people just say what the bible SAY but never SHOW what the has, so in turn what you say may be the truth but with some hard end proof from the bible or some other source what you just said was completly irrevelent, misguided, hot air coming from a boy who thinks he know it all. So if you ever have a chance to read this post I hope you're next one have some relevent proof to what you say...@misterpanda- Sorry about you're father he must have been a great guy...PS. Davin don't think I'm picking on you because a lot of people just say what the bible say but never show, which make them look like to me a person without any accurate knowledge of their belief, because they can say what they believe bu never show, which make people who don't believe in god more untrusted toward the idea to a god or gods. So next time you post please use or give some backing to you're words... so I can safely say you're satement I quote could directly apply to you next time you don't prove a point....(and trust me once you do give evidence to you're belief less people will argue)offtopichmmmmm I wonder what happen to neotigerx he usally here to rip people like you to shreads...and yeah I believe in a god if anyone wants to know...

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I'd pick on Davin, his posts are big and scary....but yea, it's fine to have conviction, but damning other people to hell for not believing your convincing argument is rather narrow-minded.

[ZeroUrashima]

Wait, Wait. So your saying that an explosion from no where created the seas and the ocean. But someone that caused this to happen is completely out of the question? Can I asked you why? If we are able to prove the exsistance of God then he would cease to be God. Simple logic. Look around you this is what god created. Pretty much me believing that god regulates everything and you beliving that an unexplainable keeps the universe in check is the same f***ing thing. Maybe if you can't prove something it's god way of telling you "THATS MY JOB!!!!" By now the only way he can prove his exsistance now is to burst out of the clouds and wave a sign cause you pretty much gonna disprove anything else.

If you read carefully what I said, I NEVER once supported the Big Bang theory. I'm simply saying that if God exists, who brought God to this world so it creates a loop where the creation of someone requires a more powerful being and the loop never stops. Besides, the formation of seas, ocean and etc were creating by atoms interacting with each other and the Big Bang theory states that those atoms came from the Big Bang and I repeat, I am not supporting it but just as you believe God created this world, I don't see any problems with others believing that the Big Bang did since they are equally unproven. Btw, yes, the only to prove would be for him to suddenly pop up.

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@ZeroUrashimaSuch weak arguements for not believing in god I mean a lowly creature to comand a god to show his face wow I never heard that one before well i answer kinda of topics before many times, and tell you see the truth it just because for our own safty, I mean Moses ask to see god and god said he'll die if he do so he send messengers or someother means to contact us Here a scripture to futher my point Impossible to see god.........Ex33:20, Joh 1:18, 1Joh 4:12 these are the popular stripure to state that god can't be seen by human eyes and live look them up yourself if you have the time but if not I'll give one hmm I really don't want to get any petty arguements about this so yeah this is notes

Ex33:17-20 17 And Jehovah went on to say to Moses: “This thing, too, of which you have spoken, I shall do, because you have found favor in my eyes and I know you by name.” 18 At this he said: “Cause me to see, please, your glory.” 19 But he said: “I myself shall cause all my goodness to pass before your face, and I will declare the name of Jehovah before you; and I will favor the one whom I may favor, and I will show mercy to the one to whom I may show mercy.” 20 And he added: “You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live.”

Edited by The Foo Foo bunny Rriders, 04 May 2006 - 07:00 AM.