Correction: There is so much discrimination in the world that removing religion doesn't really help much anyways.
God real or not?
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 06:40 AM
i believe in god but have my own ideas about it. i think that each person's spiritual connection to god or gods is different and unique to them. no one really is 100% by the book. no two people have the same spirituality
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 06:44 AM
Im not Cristian or anything but i believe in god. Dont know why though.
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 07:04 AM
i believe in god but i don't care about going to church
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 08:47 AM
Very real. My creator, redeamor and savior is him.Even if the whole world denied him, I would still believe. =P
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 09:06 AM
I believe there's a being that created us. Not sure what he/she is. God or not. But surely we can't turn to life out of no where. One question for the Xtian and Kathlic. The bible said Adam and Eve were the 1st beings on earth.How do you explain dinosaur and cavemen before the Big Bang?
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 10:39 AM
Just my opinions and thoughts about the revelation and why God is not doing anything,I'm a christian by the way.Based on the bible, it did say that he WILL allow sufferings and trials on his creation, both animal and humans. The reason why war and global conflicts happens is because of two things: The process of Sins and a Sign of the Apocalypse.The conflicts is a way that God is telling us that the time is coming when the human race need to pay attention to His commands (especially his chosen people). God is actually merciful enough to reveal clues about the End and what happens before that. The reasons of what he does also is stated in the Bible but usually is hard to interprete.The creation of human being.What I've read before is that Science helps (well, at least) prove that Religion is true, in a way. Science helps us appreciate God's glory (his creations).Beliefs are carried up BY men. It was made in us BEFORE.Beliefs come from faith and hope. And hope and faith comes from ancient records or datas OR at extreme cases the unseen (what we christians say: We see by faith, not by sight). Its your choice whether not to believe or to believe.And about why we are here, we were actually made for God's glory. Would you think you were just born just to spend your 60+ years of life on earth and then vanish to no existence? No. Have you felt life is just like a game, ends abruptly and unexpectedly? If there was God, he would save us because the creator loves his creation. If you were to create human beings, there will be some who will kill them for entertainment because they are filled with sin. God is Sinless.I wouldent want us to find out where heaven and hell is, and I'm sure God dont want us to. Would you rather think how terrible hell would be and how magnificent heaven would be or would you spend yyour limited life finding out what and where is heaven and hell really is?
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 05:25 PM
I'm Atheist, don't hate... But my family's has had 6 generations of pastors, and all of them believe in Evolution and the Big Bang theory...Flat Earthers, think that that is incompatible, that you can have be Christian, and accept Science.
Edited by Rick28, 23 November 2007 - 05:37 PM.
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 05:30 PM
I don't believe in a god. If I did, it's a god that hates us and put us here so he could drink the sweet milk of our sorrow.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 08:50 AM
I hate it when people say that, because it's so incredibly untrue, and I've seen it like 1239182731237 times in this thread. I understand what you mean by saying 'religion doesn't exist', but religion, in fact, does exist. Perhaps religious dogma is wrong, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Personally, I think it's the other way around. Religion exists to worship a god that isn't there. I firmly believe that religion has outlived its usefulness. Certainly there was a time where religion was quite necessary, just like how rape was necessary to increase the chances of one's procreation. Nowadays, we can all agree that rape is no longer needed, and I hope that soon everyone will realize that religion is also no longer needed. It seems that people abuse other people's blind faith to their own ends, and it would be much more difficult to do so if there were no religion. I see religion as a barrier between all of mankind, and I can't see us having a peaceful world while fanatical religious fundamentalists control the Earth.God exists, religion doesn't.wow that's profound
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 09:37 AM
I do Not believe in god,I'm an Aithiest whom of which believes in the study of science. I will believe in him when I see him with my own two eyes.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 09:51 AM
I'm a Christian who Believe that some day theres going to be a great judgement over the Earth and all those who don't trust Jesus Christ as their Savior will be cast into the pit of Hell.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:00 AM
Which is why I wouldn't be a Christian, even if I DID believe in God. Why would I want to worship an angry, judgmental God, when I could worship a much nicer, benevolent one?I'm a Christian who Believe that some day theres going to be a great judgement over the Earth and all those who don't trust Jesus Christ as their Savior will be cast into the pit of Hell.
Edited by Harlequin, 24 November 2007 - 10:02 AM.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:08 AM
i believe god exists, i also believe that he is what you make him. if you want your god to be some wrathful being who makes all non-believers burn in the eternal flames of hell, that's your business 
personally, i think that god is more of a laid back kind of being, like, you don't have to go to church and worship him and stuff, because nothing should really be worshiped. my god wouldn't be so forgiving either, unfortunately 
, like when it comes to murder and stuff. with my god, you couldn't just be like, " oh god forgive me for my sins" it wouldn't work like that, it's too easy and nothing is really learned from it. now, if you did commit something atrocious like that, it is still possible that you could get into heaven, but god would like make you suffer just as much as you made someone else. idk, these are my beliefs, accept them or don't i don't really care lol
personally, i think that god is more of a laid back kind of being, like, you don't have to go to church and worship him and stuff, because nothing should really be worshiped. my god wouldn't be so forgiving either, unfortunately , like when it comes to murder and stuff. with my god, you couldn't just be like, " oh god forgive me for my sins" it wouldn't work like that, it's too easy and nothing is really learned from it. now, if you did commit something atrocious like that, it is still possible that you could get into heaven, but god would like make you suffer just as much as you made someone else. idk, these are my beliefs, accept them or don't i don't really care lol
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:35 AM
I dislike religion. As you can probably tell I'm an athiest although I was once a very devout Christian. I'm not trying to say there isn't a God. But I do believe that most Religions are scams. Some religions are pretty much designed to take money away from its followers. Christianity is a good example. There is, has, and always will be money involved in the worship of 'God'. "Give me $100 and I'll absolve you of your sins". I have yet to find a Church that doesn't guilt you into donating money to them. What does a church need money for? Truely believing in a God shouldn't require you to fork over money. The main focus of Chrisitanity these days has shifted from faith to money. As L. Ron Hubbard once said:
L. Ron Hubbard started the Church of Scientology in 1953. By 1982, his net worth was more than $200,000,000.Another thing about Religion that I hate is how it overrides logic. Faith always overrides logic. It is this lack of logic, cpupled with greed, that fuels religion. After all, why would anyone in their right mind put their faith (and money) into a Church based around a book written a thousand years ago by a few guys who thought they could communicate with a devine being? Because they can get something out of it. Eventually, poeple started to believe this schizophrenic dribble and faith started to kick in. A good analogy of religion is from the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Here they believe in a invisible, pink unicorn. Faith tells us that it is pink. However, logic tells us that it is invisible and therefore cannot be pink. Its stuff like that that turns me away from religion and religious people. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind most religious people. In fact I have a few Catholic friends. But I detest people who try to push thei religion onto me. And when you think about it, its probably not because they are selfless enough to want to save me. More likely, they want me to join so they can hang onto me and their church can leech money off me. Mr Ham,attempting Bhudism"I’d like to start a religion. That’s where the money is."
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 11:44 AM
truth is noone really knows so just face that..
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 12:58 PM
I am quite happy to accept the idea of a creator god, hving considered both teleological and cosmological arguements for his existence it seems more than probable that there is some sort of creator being, however the real question for me is wether on not this god is necessarily good and wether or not he (or she or what ever the hell you want really) is worthy of worship. for example to cite plato's euythphro dilemma, if God decides what is good then surely he is a dictator and therefor not worthy of worchip, yet if he is bound by the laws of good and evil then he is not ultimate and therefor again, not worthy of worship.peace out. BillyNP, im devoted to, I know what you were trying to explain
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 03:44 PM
God will destroy the world. But why would He destroy it after he made it. Because the people made sins? But I thought He's the God and He can control everything so He can just make evryone devine. This is just my confusion. I do beleive in God.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:12 PM
I believe in god and i always will. i need it and i feel the god egists though i dont have any proof. when i pray i dont ask for anything usually, but if i do, i am always answered. i dont know what religion is the best, there are manyof them, but the god is one for all of them, only his name changes, and the way people understand him. noone is perfect and every religion is changed becouse of this, but it doesnt mean that there is any conspiracy or something...
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:19 PM
I am what you might call an EvoCreationist/Atheist. I believe God exists, but I doubt he's as great as the bible makes him out to be, there may also be other gods. My main reason for thinking this is because, firstly, omnipotence is a paradox and therefore impossible, and God can't be omniscient since he leaves so much out of the bible. Besides, think about. In this day and age the persons who wrote the bible would be regarded not as prophets but as schizophrenics.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:31 PM
Its one of those things you don't want to disbelieve in as when you die you always hope there is a better place to go.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:37 PM
Yeah. I'm christian and my 'rents brought em up to believe in god. It's just in me now and i just believe in him. Anyway, its nice to believe in someone/something than being all lonely and alone.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:43 PM
I belive in God completely. Often the fight between science and religion seems trivial, and compromise and acceptance seems like the best way to live. Rather than hating someone that belives something different than you, understand their point of view. It gives you a better understanding of what you are looking at.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:50 PM
OK I gotta ask, what do you think of islam?
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:53 PM
I find no problems with most islamic beliefs, as they are a close relative to Christianity. The only problems are when the people take the religion too literally and go nuts (terrorists).
