Abortions
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Guest_CrystalAkimichi
Posted 28 April 2008 - 03:56 AM
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Guest_parkinson_pat
Posted 28 April 2008 - 04:56 PM
#253
Guest_mugaman
Posted 28 April 2008 - 10:11 PM
Yes, but there isn't any debate on whether or not it is alive. We know that the fetus is alive... but so is a cell or a bacteria. The question, then, is whether or not the fetus is human.Then a pro-embryonic stem cell person would say "aborted fetuses are DEAD so they're useless" wait a sec... did he just say they're DEAD? If a fetus' "deadness" makes it unusable for embryonic stem cell research, wouldn't that mean it was alive to begin with?
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Guest_6SuN$Jyp)Z!.]t%G
Posted 28 April 2008 - 10:37 PM
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Guest_Lilian Suhani
Posted 29 April 2008 - 01:48 AM
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Guest_mad dudy
Posted 29 April 2008 - 02:16 AM
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Guest_Midnight Mistress
Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:54 PM
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Guest_PikePurga
Posted 29 April 2008 - 09:20 PM
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Guest_6SuN$Jyp)Z!.]t%G
Posted 30 April 2008 - 03:02 PM
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Guest_A Redneck
Posted 01 May 2008 - 03:23 AM
i think abortion is legalized murder and if you dont want to be a parent put them up for adoption because if you murder them thats another pair of eyes that cant see another person that cant love another tounge that cant taste another person who cant enjoy LIFE!!!!! And besides if you didnt want a kid you should have thought about that before SPREADING YOUR LEGS!!!!!!!! without protectionPersonally, I'm pro choice. Abortions have been shown to keep the crime rate down (Source: Freakanomics), and they let people who aren't ready to be parents not carry the burden of a child. I believe if you don't want to have an abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE. Don't infringe on other peoples lives just because you don't like it. Thats like protesting a gay marriage just because you aren't gay. Since the abortion doesn't affect you in any way shape or form, I don't think third parties should have any say on it at all. I also think the only reason they are banned where they are (I'm stateside) is because we live more in a theocracy than anything. If you think its wrong, please explain why you think its wrong, and likewise if you agree with me.
Edited by A Redneck, 01 May 2008 - 03:24 AM.
#261
Guest_gamerlockheart
Posted 01 May 2008 - 06:10 AM
#262
Guest_DeinKonig
Posted 01 May 2008 - 11:18 PM
But it's completely unnecessary, there are many people who would love to adopt that child...Don't be too sentimental guys. Abortion is just a way to control population, most of the girls who use abortion as an escape goat just aren't ready to be mothers. And if the parents aren't ready in a certain family, the child is the one who usually suffers.
#263
Guest_SuperWai
Posted 01 May 2008 - 11:22 PM
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Guest_Ryokashi
Posted 02 May 2008 - 02:37 AM
#265
Guest_DeinKonig
Posted 02 May 2008 - 02:57 AM
I'm completely pro-choice. What quite a few abortion protesters fail to realize is the fact that a fetus is not capable of thought. It is barely capable of the slightest recognition of the five human senses, the most being able to feel pressure. A cow fetus looks the same as a human fetus in the stage that they are aborted at, and they are no different from each other either.
#266
Guest_Balore
Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:14 AM
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Guest_DeinKonig
Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:20 AM
But it's still completely unnecessary to take that life... If the woman is worried that it's going to hurt, get a c-section... but that's really the only downside to saving a life (or potential life) and possibly giving a child to someone who biologically couldn't have on of their own. I don't see what is so "bad" about adoption that abortion is the "only route" out of it.If the abortion is preformed at the proper stage of development, then the fetus will be incapable of any sort of thought or feeling, including pain. Lots of things don't sound nice, but you shouldn't let your sentimental side cloud your logical one.
#268
Guest_Balore
Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:26 AM
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Guest_DeinKonig
Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:35 AM
There is some truth here, it takes a special person to be able to raise an adopted child well. I'd still personally rather be adopted than dead.It's not the only route, but adoption isn't as good as everyone who uses that argument makes it out to be. Think about the effect it could have on the child. I'm not saying there has to be any drastic effect, but there easily could be, and I feel it would be quite common.I don't see it as "taking" a life because there is no real life yet. It's preventing a potential life, and I have no problem with that. There's nothing to miss if there was nothing to begin with.
#270
Guest_firmblem
Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:47 AM
#271
Guest_DeinKonig
Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:49 AM
Does that child have a right to life? Do the parents have the right to kill in cold blood the most innocent person (or creature) on earth?My view on abortion is this. If people have the right to choose to refrain from having sex they have the right to get rid of the child. In both cases they are preventing a potential life.
#272
Guest_gamerlockheart
Posted 02 May 2008 - 06:46 AM
This is what's wrong with people sometimes, they're so sentimental, your morals are getting in the way of your logical thinking. What do you think what will happen to a child with immature teenage parents? That's why we have abortion as an option, to give a chance who made mistakes.Does that child have a right to life? Do the parents have the right to kill in cold blood the most innocent person (or creature) on earth?
#273
Guest_1337pokemaster
Posted 02 May 2008 - 06:52 AM
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Guest_gamerlockheart
Posted 02 May 2008 - 07:45 AM
Pokemaster, they get they're ideas from their morals, they think it's not right to kill an unborn child since it's already alive. They think of the life that the baby should have, and should have had after the abortion, why do they care?! They aren't the ones who're gonna take care of the baby, they're not the ones whose life are gonna get wrecked by one mistake, and the option they must take to stop that was not legalized by sentimental fools. They just don't stop to think what condition what the potential abortionists are in.I'm also pro-choice.Who cares if you kill a fertilized egg cell? They even sell fertilized chicken eggs at Safeway for humans to eat.It doesn't matter if you kill something of a very insignificant value, because they practically aren't alive anyways, and don't know what you're doing to them. Like say for example, I killed a bug.Would anyone care?Yeah, I don't see how pro-lifers get their ideas.
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Guest_Omega Chill
Posted 02 May 2008 - 07:37 PM








