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#251 Guest_CrystalAkimichi

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 03:56 AM

I'm for it. Excuse me if it sounds arrogant, but it will help out the over-population problem.
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 04:56 PM

it's only a bundle of DNA that's gonna be a pain in the ass later.up to the mother.
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 10:11 PM

Then a pro-embryonic stem cell person would say "aborted fetuses are DEAD so they're useless" wait a sec... did he just say they're DEAD? If a fetus' "deadness" makes it unusable for embryonic stem cell research, wouldn't that mean it was alive to begin with?

Yes, but there isn't any debate on whether or not it is alive. We know that the fetus is alive... but so is a cell or a bacteria. The question, then, is whether or not the fetus is human.
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 10:37 PM

I'd like to correct that: The question is whether or not the fetus is a person. After all, fetuses do have human DNA.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 01:48 AM

I think anyone should be able to do with themselves what they wish. It is their body, and they must be allowed to treat it as such. Then again, it depends on the phase of the abortion. Zygotes, mayhaps. But any further, then i get a little queasy.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 02:16 AM

Abortions are the best if someone dont want a baby Abortions do the trickPOINTS were deducted for this post by hookingtonPlease refer to the forum rules to find out why your points were deducted.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:54 PM

i think if u were raped then abortion maybe the way for u but if u just dont want to have a baby than adoption is the best way to go
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 09:20 PM

We must all accept the consequences of our actions if you choose to have sex then get pregnant then its your own fault and you should not be able to have an abortion however if you were raped or forced into sex then got pregnant because of it then although i dont like it its your right to choose
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 03:02 PM

So you think because you "choose" to drive a car, it's okay if someone drives into you and kills/maims you and your family? I know that's a bit extreme in comparison, but I disapprove of the way you put things. You choose a lot of things, and I'm sure most people here have made choices unrelated to abortion that lead to some kind of unnecessary death, or know someone who have.
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 03:23 AM

Personally, I'm pro choice. Abortions have been shown to keep the crime rate down (Source: Freakanomics), and they let people who aren't ready to be parents not carry the burden of a child. I believe if you don't want to have an abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE. Don't infringe on other peoples lives just because you don't like it. Thats like protesting a gay marriage just because you aren't gay. Since the abortion doesn't affect you in any way shape or form, I don't think third parties should have any say on it at all. I also think the only reason they are banned where they are (I'm stateside) is because we live more in a theocracy than anything. If you think its wrong, please explain why you think its wrong, and likewise if you agree with me.

i think abortion is legalized murder and if you dont want to be a parent put them up for adoption because if you murder them thats another pair of eyes that cant see another person that cant love another tounge that cant taste another person who cant enjoy LIFE!!!!! And besides if you didnt want a kid you should have thought about that before SPREADING YOUR LEGS!!!!!!!! without protection

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Posted 01 May 2008 - 06:10 AM

Don't be too sentimental guys. Abortion is just a way to control population, most of the girls who use abortion as an escape goat just aren't ready to be mothers. And if the parents aren't ready in a certain family, the child is the one who usually suffers.
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 11:18 PM

Don't be too sentimental guys. Abortion is just a way to control population, most of the girls who use abortion as an escape goat just aren't ready to be mothers. And if the parents aren't ready in a certain family, the child is the one who usually suffers.

But it's completely unnecessary, there are many people who would love to adopt that child...
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 11:22 PM

Abortion should be illegal no matter what. Even in the case of rape pregnancy, the child can be given into adoption. People who are proabortion are monsters who only want to see innocent people die.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 02:37 AM

I'm completely pro-choice. What quite a few abortion protesters fail to realize is the fact that a fetus is not capable of thought. It is barely capable of the slightest recognition of the five human senses, the most being able to feel pressure. A cow fetus looks the same as a human fetus in the stage that they are aborted at, and they are no different from each other either.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 02:57 AM

I'm completely pro-choice. What quite a few abortion protesters fail to realize is the fact that a fetus is not capable of thought. It is barely capable of the slightest recognition of the five human senses, the most being able to feel pressure. A cow fetus looks the same as a human fetus in the stage that they are aborted at, and they are no different from each other either.

:D It depends on what study you investigate. I've seen studies that the pain a fetus feels is about 20x as great as a fully grown human would feel at that stage. BTW, how do you know a fetus is not capable of thought...? Would you like it if we zapped you back to that stage in your development and chopped you up into tiny pieces before "extracting" you from your mother? This whole abortion thing sounds so nice doesn't it?
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:14 AM

If the abortion is preformed at the proper stage of development, then the fetus will be incapable of any sort of thought or feeling, including pain. Lots of things don't sound nice, but you shouldn't let your sentimental side cloud your logical one.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:20 AM

If the abortion is preformed at the proper stage of development, then the fetus will be incapable of any sort of thought or feeling, including pain. Lots of things don't sound nice, but you shouldn't let your sentimental side cloud your logical one.

But it's still completely unnecessary to take that life... If the woman is worried that it's going to hurt, get a c-section... but that's really the only downside to saving a life (or potential life) and possibly giving a child to someone who biologically couldn't have on of their own. I don't see what is so "bad" about adoption that abortion is the "only route" out of it.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:26 AM

It's not the only route, but adoption isn't as good as everyone who uses that argument makes it out to be. Think about the effect it could have on the child. I'm not saying there has to be any drastic effect, but there easily could be, and I feel it would be quite common.I don't see it as "taking" a life because there is no real life yet. It's preventing a potential life, and I have no problem with that. There's nothing to miss if there was nothing to begin with.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:35 AM

It's not the only route, but adoption isn't as good as everyone who uses that argument makes it out to be. Think about the effect it could have on the child. I'm not saying there has to be any drastic effect, but there easily could be, and I feel it would be quite common.I don't see it as "taking" a life because there is no real life yet. It's preventing a potential life, and I have no problem with that. There's nothing to miss if there was nothing to begin with.

There is some truth here, it takes a special person to be able to raise an adopted child well. I'd still personally rather be adopted than dead.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:47 AM

My view on abortion is this. If people have the right to choose to refrain from having sex they have the right to get rid of the child. In both cases they are preventing a potential life.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:49 AM

My view on abortion is this. If people have the right to choose to refrain from having sex they have the right to get rid of the child. In both cases they are preventing a potential life.

Does that child have a right to life? Do the parents have the right to kill in cold blood the most innocent person (or creature) on earth?
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 06:46 AM

Does that child have a right to life? Do the parents have the right to kill in cold blood the most innocent person (or creature) on earth?

This is what's wrong with people sometimes, they're so sentimental, your morals are getting in the way of your logical thinking. What do you think what will happen to a child with immature teenage parents? That's why we have abortion as an option, to give a chance who made mistakes.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 06:52 AM

I'm also pro-choice.Who cares if you kill a fertilized egg cell? They even sell fertilized chicken eggs at Safeway for humans to eat.It doesn't matter if you kill something of a very insignificant value, because they practically aren't alive anyways, and don't know what you're doing to them. Like say for example, I killed a bug.Would anyone care?Yeah, I don't see how pro-lifers get their ideas.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 07:45 AM

I'm also pro-choice.Who cares if you kill a fertilized egg cell? They even sell fertilized chicken eggs at Safeway for humans to eat.It doesn't matter if you kill something of a very insignificant value, because they practically aren't alive anyways, and don't know what you're doing to them. Like say for example, I killed a bug.Would anyone care?Yeah, I don't see how pro-lifers get their ideas.

Pokemaster, they get they're ideas from their morals, they think it's not right to kill an unborn child since it's already alive. They think of the life that the baby should have, and should have had after the abortion, why do they care?! They aren't the ones who're gonna take care of the baby, they're not the ones whose life are gonna get wrecked by one mistake, and the option they must take to stop that was not legalized by sentimental fools. They just don't stop to think what condition what the potential abortionists are in.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 07:37 PM

I'm sick of people not owning up to there mistakes in life we let people who are foolish enough to get pregnant get abortions and we let people live who kill other people by driving drunk how about people start owning up to there mistakes
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