im personally against because alot of people who end up doing it regret it later on and the baby is a living thing and they just kill it, it is murder
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 10:10 AM
Foetus, not baby. You kill living things every day, so what's up with the hypocrisy here?im personally against because alot of people who end up doing it regret it later on and the baby is a living thing and they just kill it, it is murder
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 12:48 AM
Well, when sperm meets egg, it's a fetus, and a living being, with a soul.It's basically murder. If you decide to have a baby but when you decide you aren't ready, do you kill it? That's basically abortion.So... I'm against abortion.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 05:08 AM
I'm Pro choice as well so I agree that a woman should have the option, but it's not just about her body. A father's interest in having a child--perhaps his only child--may be unmatched by any other interest in his life. Why assign a greater value to a mother's decision to cut off a potential human life by abortion than to a father's decision to let it mature into a live child? I think it should be required to prove that the father also wants the abortion. Having a child affects so many people that it will never be as black and white as "a woman's body is her own".Pro choice for the win. A woman's body is her own.
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Posted 01 August 2008 - 07:22 AM
I'm pro-choice, because of several reasons.1. Those people who say put the child up for adoption, do you not realize there are already too many unwanted kids?!? Oh, sure, there are people who want to adopt, but there's also kids who spend almost all their childhood in orphanages. Do you really want more unlucky kids who never know what it's like to have a family and suffer for it?2. Some of you have said for the parents to take responsibility for their actions. However, have you thought that they might try to get out of it in other, harsher ways, such as killing the infant or abandoning it where it has no hope of survival? Which do you think is worse, killing it when it's already fully formed and born or when it's underdeveloped without sense of being?3. Even if the child isn't abandoned, the child will suffer for most of its life because of parents who don't love it or can't care for it. The child might be abused all throughout its childhood or be forced to work for its parents.So, do you really want to let these fates happen to many more children by protesting abortion, or have you changed your minds?
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Posted 01 August 2008 - 10:56 AM
There are so many debates about abortion around the world...I don't understand what is the big deal about this?! Since woman has to "carry" child for 9 months and after that withstand truly painfull process of giving birth she shoulh have right to abort pregnancy if she belives to be sutable for her situation. Also no matter will she abort or not she should get FULL support from all her family and partner.Considering us, male population of this planet, we have to stop making such big deal; we do have practically infinite ammount and "supply" of semen on "our disposal".
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Posted 01 August 2008 - 12:55 PM
It's basically murder when you clean your hands, too. When you eat, when you shower, when you move, when you sleep - only then you're not murdering foetuses, you're murdering a multitude of other living creatures. So it's okay to "murder" everything that isn't human, huh? Also, how can you say a foetus has a soul when there's no evidence for a souls' existence in the first place? And if a foetus has a soul, how can you know all those other creatures you regularly "murder" don't?Well, when sperm meets egg, it's a fetus, and a living being, with a soul.It's basically murder. If you decide to have a baby but when you decide you aren't ready, do you kill it? That's basically abortion.So... I'm against abortion.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 06:55 AM
abortions are wrong because you aren't giving that child to live even if it is hard for the mother the child must be given a chance to live through the joys of life. would you have liked it if your mother would have aborted you just because you were unwanted? that sounds pretty messed up. and if you don't want to take care of the child(shame on you) give it to an adoption agency so it can feel love before it dies.human beings are the only created physical beings that matter. every other things was made to be under us. the only thing i would not kill is another human. don't get into religion because we have that in other topics but yes my belief effects my choice here.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 12:47 PM
So every time you miss a chance to have a baby (don't have unprotected sex), you're basically murdering a child?abortions are wrong because you aren't giving that child to live even if it is hard for the mother the child must be given a chance to live through the joys of life. would you have liked it if your mother would have aborted you just because you were unwanted? that sounds pretty messed up. and if you don't want to take care of the child(shame on you) give it to an adoption agency so it can feel love before it dies.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 07:21 PM
if ur a teenager then there is no doubt u should either have an abortion or convince ur partner to have an abortion cause according to me sex if fun, the negatives shouldn't come in between. only the scenario of no-abortion should come if ur 20+ or ur a rich teenager who can well afford to be a parent or u love kids (believe me, after u get yourself or the partner pregnant, u'll hate kids)
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 09:19 PM
Personally, I'm not really for or against abortion. It is the woman's decision if she wants to either "kill" the fetus, or to let the child develop and put s/he up for adoption. Really. If they didn't want to make this kind of choice, they shouldn't have had sex in the first place. Unless they were raped. But in that case, it's still the same story. It's her decision.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 09:44 PM
What about the downside of life? No one ever seems to bother mentioning that part, do they? Why should a practically non-existent, insentient being hold sway over an adult? Sorry, but I just don't understand that logic.abortions are wrong because you aren't giving that child to live even if it is hard for the mother the child must be given a chance to live through the joys of life.
I wouldn't have cared, as I wouldn't be in existence today and therefore I wouldn't have emotions, period.would you have liked it if your mother would have aborted you just because you were unwanted?
Plenty of people have given reasons for and against adoption. Instead of suggesting it as an alternative, as many, many people have previously done, why not address some of the arguments made against it?and if you don't want to take care of the child(shame on you) give it to an adoption agency so it can feel love before it dies.
Huh? I'm pretty sure it says in the Bible that God created everything, not just humans. Superiority complexes are cool and all, but I'm perfectly comfortable with not having one. I don't believe humans are intrinsically better than any other animal. We have a much greater capacity to think, but that's where it ends. Besides, abortions (actual abortions) are done at the stage in which the fetus is completely lacking in any feeling or brain power. Like I said, insentient. It has the potential to become a human, but so does every drop of sperm you ever waste.human beings are the only created physical beings that matter. every other things was made to be under us. the only thing i would not kill is another human. don't get into religion because we have that in other topics but yes my belief effects my choice here.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 09:58 PM
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 03:28 AM
I'm pro choice. I think people have the right to make decisions that will greatly affect their life. So I'm pro choice and pro decision
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 11:41 AM
Contra choice.It never can be right to end someone's life.Neither by ending it nor by preventing life to exist.It's a human the moment the two DNA informations get together.If you kill it, it's murder.The body of a woman may belong to her, but not the life her child.If she couldn't use condomes it's her own fault and she will have to take the baby, end of discussion.It's just not right to kill a human life. (A Foetus is a human in my opinion, no one can tell me anything else)Death Penalty isn't legalizaed here in Germany, as well as abortion, and that's because human life is the most precious thing over here.
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 05:37 AM
I too am pro abortion. Although it is argued that fetuses are humans, which I can't really argue with, they are also parasites to the mothers. Some would also argue that the mother should not have been intimate in the first place, but you can't really ever say if it was the woman's fault or rape. Basically, it's like forcing the mother to take care of a child which she does not want.
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 11:44 PM
Abortion is the act of knowingly killing a potential human life. Sperm and eggs individually aren't full potential for a life, but a fetus is no doubt one hundred a life. Therefore, if everyone agrees that killing is wrong, then abortion is wrong too.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 12:30 AM
Abortion is wrong dude what happen if you where the baby in there and then BOOM your dead cause of abortion yes its a baby but still its alive no?
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 10:44 PM
i dont accept abortion. Why? in the firts week the fetus have a heart, a CNS, and he can fell fear and other feelings... when an abortion its going on the baby freak out and his heart beats increase, like you when you are murdered
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 11:08 PM
I really dont care, It up to the women what happen to her body and i am a man.
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 11:43 AM
They save lives. They save the life of a girl who isn't ready to be a mother, a man who isn't ready to be a father, and a child who wouldn't be given the right opportunity in life.There are certain circumstances I would not want to have been born under. A situation that would warrant the consideration of abortion is one of them. If my parents weren't ready to have me, I dont think I would want to be in that situation. Now, that isnt to say abortion is to be used as a contraceptive. I knew a girl a few years back who used abortions as a form of birth control, this is by no means acceptable to me, as it is a serious decision to be made. But if you find yourself in that situation, for whatever reason, I fully support the option to be available. There are simply too many unknown and mitigating circumstances surrounding pregnancy for it to be a "my way or the highway" ordeal.Then again, I think Gevorkian was a right standup guy, so my opinions may be skewed against the favor of humanity.
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Posted 09 August 2008 - 08:50 PM
i couldnt handle the fact that my child would be dismembered and sucked up by a vacuum, and if i was responsible enough i would not have sex in the first place.people who are with abortion or have aborted, in a sense are cowards because they cant handle responsibility and consequence of their unthought through action. life is life, if you dont want to be killed, then why do it to someone else is just as innocent as anyone else?
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Posted 09 August 2008 - 11:16 PM
Your "child" wouldn't exactly be consider as such during the stage it's in at the time an abortion is preformed.i couldnt handle the fact that my child would be dismembered and sucked up by a vacuum, and if i was responsible enough i would not have sex in the first place.
You seem to be omitting rape from your list of possibilities for some reason. Also, broken condoms, while much rarer these days, still happen. Your suggestion that the act of preforming or even supporting abortion is hypocritical is nothing but fallacious. It shouldn't be viewed as taking a life since, again, the stage at which it's terminated doesn't allow it to have such characteristically human traits as emotion or thought. Aborting, if anything, should be considered the prevention of a potential life. I equate it with wasting sperm; same idea.people who are with abortion or have aborted, in a sense are cowards because they cant handle responsibility and consequence of their unthought through action. life is life, if you dont want to be killed, then why do it to someone else is just as innocent as anyone else?
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Posted 10 August 2008 - 02:47 AM
broken condoms could still be seen as the act of carelessness as well, forgeting to pinch the top? thats just your own fault man. rape also seems to be the only logical reason to get rid of your child. but even then, by the time of conception, thats life inside that womans uterus.and preventing life is NOT a bad thing? seeing a little "you" grow up (depending how you raise the kid) and flourish NOT an accomplishing feeling? despite the fact it could be a rape child, aborting is a cowards way out"oh, i got raped and preganant, let me kill the fetus and carry on with life, who cares about an insignificant thing that could be an immense help to society, or a great trouble, OH WELL, lets just kill it."Your "child" wouldn't exactly be consider as such during the stage it's in at the time an abortion is preformed.You seem to be omitting rape from your list of possibilities for some reason. Also, broken condoms, while much rarer these days, still happen. Your suggestion that the act of preforming or even supporting abortion is hypocritical is nothing but fallacious. It shouldn't be viewed as taking a life since, again, the stage at which it's terminated doesn't allow it to have such characteristically human traits as emotion or thought. Aborting, if anything, should be considered the prevention of a potential life. I equate it with wasting sperm; same idea.
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Posted 10 August 2008 - 02:51 AM
That and the fact that they save lives, enable people to consummate without rubber and relieves a lot of pain..., also, it's none of the anti abortionist's business what goes on in a womb of some person you never met...I really dont care, It up to the women what happen to her body and i am a man.
Edited by Bloodeye1912, 10 August 2008 - 02:52 AM.
