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Posted 23 February 2008 - 05:46 PM
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 10:44 PM
i am against abortion because there is a baby waiting to be born and u end up killing it
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 12:45 AM
I think if you are pro choice you are sick and should be put down yourself you sick murdering freaks. you are all mindless horny sex drones that have no control over your bodys and when you mess up its somehow the babys fault and so you kill it... you are all weak and deserve to be aborted yourselves
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 01:03 AM
You're wrong while I'm pro life there are circumstances in life where abortions are needed such as rape or where the child or mother would die from birth however "it's my body i'll do whatever I want" train of thought is wrong and immature and those people need to get a clue and grow upI think if you are pro choice you are sick and should be put down yourself you sick murdering freaks. you are all mindless horny sex drones that have no control over your bodys and when you mess up its somehow the babys fault and so you kill it... you are all weak and deserve to be aborted yourselves
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 06:31 AM
lets attack the issues and not each other shall we?now to stay on topic, basicaly i agree with what omega chill said, certain cercumstances would warrant abortions such as rape or if the pregnancy wasnt viable anyway. Also, i hear abortion is a very dangerous procedure so i dont think many people go into an abortion clinic with the frame of mind of "i can just have sex with whoever i want and go get an abortion." Also, i would like to pose to you this question.If you and your partner got pregnant (if you dont have one assume you do for the sake of arguement) and say you made, under 15000 a year, and had no insurance, would you still say what your saying now? a child can be quite the financial burden (not its fault). to raise a child from birth to post college costs somewhere in the range of 1million dollars is what i hear, now for a solid statistic i would have to look around on the net, but it most certainly isnt cheap. and the delivery of the child itself costs alot of money, probly in the $10,000 area just for delivery, not to mention all the ultra sounds and pre-delivery stuff you have to go through, and then if there is complications durring pregnancy im sure there is more money you have to pay for that. now you may say "its still not the childs fault that their parents got pregnant" and true it isnt. But if delivered, that child is going to be raised in a family that is beyond the level of poverty, they wont be poor, they wont be broke, they will be much much worse than broke. they will be in a level of debt that wont be payed off any time in the near future. which means that child will probly go hungry, have inadequate hygene and food, live in a high stress environment, and have a lower chance of success in life (generaly speaking the poorer your family is to start with the less chance you have of completeing college and/or getting a well paying job) now ask yourself, if you were the parent in that situation, would abortion not cross your mind? and you may say you would give it up for adoption, but you would still be in a tremendous amount of debt, and after going through so much hell to deliver the kid, wouldnt you want to keep it?I think if you are pro choice you are sick and should be put down yourself you sick murdering freaks. you are all mindless horny sex drones that have no control over your bodys and when you mess up its somehow the babys fault and so you kill it... you are all weak and deserve to be aborted yourselves
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 06:46 AM
It's a double ended sword situation if your that poor you shouldn't have kids you probably shouldn't even have sex and if you do be extremely careful it's wrong to bring a child into this world if you can't afford it but it's also wrong to have an abortion the only logical thing to do is not to have sex at all but people would never accept it if people could only accept abstinence abortions wouldn't exist
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 06:56 AM
In certain situations (such as rape or the boyfriend/etc poking a hole in the condom without the woman's knowledge), the woman should be able to have the option to abort.
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 07:01 AM
How would the woman find out about the guy poking a hole in the condom?In certain situations (such as rape or the boyfriend/etc poking a hole in the condom without the woman's knowledge), the woman should be able to have the option to abort.
but yes, i see what your saying and agree with you ^^
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 06:51 PM
i dont see the problem with aborotion as long as its not used as a method of birth control i.e your too lazy to use the pill or a condom.I mean i think its very unfair to say to sum1 that has been raped oh ur not allowed an abortion sorry.Also u have to think about the child if its not wanted is it reli going to have a good life?Im undecided tho on the whole if u kno its going to be disabled becos in a way u dont want ur kids to have big problems but how can any one learn if all disabled kids are aborted?
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 07:00 PM
it should be legal... if the baby isnt wanted, thats not a good start of its life
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:38 PM
If it's ok to abort before birth, than it is ok to do the same after birth.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:13 AM
I do not even consider this problem a choice. How could we kill a life? Thinl about that statement. Each life is another new perception. yes I know about the "rape" kids or teenage mothers. So i want to ask this. If you dont ahve the money to have the baby, the doctors just let you have a baby in the streets? The child shoudl know this:"If you let the uncontrollable circumstances control your life, you will have a life that is uncontrollable. Circumstances are the rulers of the weak, but the weapons of the wise."Many people have been born even though they were going to be aborted and they grew up to be atheletes, musicians..."its my body ill do whatever i want"? ... I dont even have to go there.I mean i sympathize with peopel that have been raped or cant raise the baby but we cant put a price tag on a life.
Edited by AMHV, 03 March 2008 - 06:14 AM.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:21 AM
Abortions are an option and sure there are the ethical issues of ohits a living thing it deserves to live but there is a bigger picture too. Why not have the baby and if you have thought your not readygive it to someone else. Put the child up for adoption.Give it to a family who will love it and care for it.But in saying this brings up the issue if who to give it to.There is a much BIGGER issue here. Ill give an example DOCS would rather give the baby toa couple on drug than to a gay or lesbian couplewho would love and care for the child.So abortion isnt the only issue.is some parts of what i have said dont make sense feel free to askme about any if it.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:43 AM
yeah i agree. have the baby and if you cant raise it, give it up for adoption. If you cant do that then.... murderer.And ellas master, this is kind of off topic but how do you ahve 142 gp's when you have 7 posts? Isnt it like 6 gp's per post???
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:03 AM
I think that it all depends on the circumstance. For instance, if a girl/woman was raped, then she should have the choice to have an abortion. Now, if she was being irresponsible and having unprotected sex, not wanting to get pregnant, then she should have to deal with the consequences of the choices that she made.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 04:36 AM
wat is wrong wit it lol like WOW wat wrong wit YES I REPEATED because it a frigging CHOICE U DONT HAVE TO OMG u anti choice pplz MAKE ME SO MAD lol
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 05:08 AM
And some of you pro choice people annoy me thinking it's okay to do it with the only reason backing your choice is that it's your body and you can do whatever you want with it maybe the child would be better off dead then have some one like you as their parent
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 05:15 AM
Seeing as you do not know Kyto in RL, and the fact that he actually does have a baby on the way. You cannot simply say that someone would be an unfit Parent if you do not even know them...*pokes*
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 05:17 AM
It was a generalization towards most if not all pro choice people and not just a single person
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 05:17 AM
You know the funny thing i happen to be in the situation in which my gf had the choice to do wat she wanted and if we were keeping it id love the kid id love the kid i would love to hae kids i want them but the anti choice ppl annoy me cause all it is it is a choice ppl are born to make em and i posted here because of my situation ppl were given the choice to do it or not and lets leave it at that
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 03:56 AM
Well let look at it both ways.Pro:-Less crimes ratesCons:-Babies kills each year and generation crumbles.This is just one example.Before reading my post, please remember it is a biased statement.I am not supporting abortions.I'm totally against it.It the parents's fault for having sex in the first place.Banned Abortion Now!!!!
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 04:00 AM
Technically,you're murdering a child if you have an abortion willingly.But that's all up to the mother I guess.In some cases,there are no other options.
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 10:50 AM
Technically, it is not considered a child / baby until a certain point during the pregnancy. Also, technically, you are not murdering it, the doctor is. The reasons for abortions being wrong is morals, personal beliefs and emotions. The scientific research (which would be the technical part) shows that abortions are done before the baby even develops into a baby, so you are technically not killing a baby / child at that point. All you are doing is ending future life, which could be compared to using condoms or other types of protections, or even just someone not having sex at all is killing a future child that could have been created.Technically,you're murdering a child if you have an abortion
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 11:30 AM
FIRE UP THE BLENDERS!!! We have to get school meals to you somehow, and the clinics provide norishment to the homeless, who eat from their dumpsters.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:12 PM
I think there hsould be pro abortions because if someone has a mistake they hsould have a choice wheither or not they want that baby and if they can support it, because if they cant then all we are going to have is another starving child out there in the world that ends up being abandoned and who really wants that?
