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[asenku11k]

Many do believe peace is something that cannot be achieved, and they are correct.People live in fear. Rumors, entertainment, and life itself can increase any one persons fear for the outside world.With fear comes the need for security. We fight each other for that security. If one is stronger than another, the weaker of the two will try and find a way to overpower the stronger one.As long as jealousy is part of human emotion, true peace is unachievable

[Ragamuffin]

Try not to fall into the fallacy that peace isn't obtainable because multiple times over the time span we have inhabited the earth.

As far back as recorded history goes, the longest world peace ever lasted was 15-17 years. With the world getting more and more crowded, I don't see things getting better. Let's not forget that world peace is subjective, and that it's impossible for everyone to get what they want. Most important of all, however, is that our competitive nature, which has led us from the age of hunting mammoths with spears to building machines on the molecular level, prevents true peace from happening. My personal take on it is that during peacetime, people get lazy and lose the ambition to improve themselves and the societies they live in, and civilization eventually stagnates.

[Auzzie Wingman]

Peace isn't purely connected to great wars.It can be anything such as nuclear threat and artillery, to neighbourhood disputes, politics, money makers, religion, media, machines, animals, natural disasters etc. It is beyond human control, due to our nature as humans.Humans are at the core of anything anti-peaceful. So, as long as humans live, peace is well and truly a fantasy.

[exiled one]

In all sincerity, peace may look like a fantasy to many people but it certainly is achievable. I feel the greatest example would be ghandi. He was one of the few who took to fasting in response to the violence that the Indians faced. Even when faced with such negativity that would have prompted a man to lash out, he still kept to his principles of non violence and achieved his goals of having an independent India.From the book 8 Attributes of Great Achievers by Cameron C.Taylor it was written: A monk once wrote more than 900 years ago, "When I was a young man, I wanted to change the world. I found it was difficult to change the world, so I tried to change my nation. When I found I couldn't change the nation, I began to focus on my town. I couldn't change the town and as an older man, I tried to change my family. Now as an old man, I realize the only thing i can change is myself, and suddenly i realize that if long ago I had changed myself, I could have made an impact on my family. My family and I could have made an impact on our town. Their impact could have changed the nation, and I could indeed have changed the world."So really all we need to do is to first calm the violence in us. From there, peace wouldn't be so much of a fantasy as we would think it is.

[The Boss]

My definition of peace will not match another's definition of peace. There can't be one definition of peace since it is subjective to the person, but rather a general idea of what peace is. I do believe that there will be moments in time where a person can be in peace, such as when one is sleeping or when one is sitting idly watching TV or eating chocolate. For a killer, that moment of peace could be when s/he is killing. It really all depends on the person, his/her values, and where s/he came from. With that said, ultimate peace (i.e. whatever "world peace" means to the person/group) cannot exist because ideas will always clash. One can't say that another person's idea of peace is wrong because to them it is right, and to them you are wrong. So by a technical definition of peace, it cannot happen. However peace can be there for the individual during certain moments of time. What seems to happen is that one group forces their ideas of peace on to another, or manipulates the population in to believing that peace is "this". Or simply we have grown up into shaping an idea of what peace is based on what other people said. My idea of peace is no fighting amongst the population and everyone being very kind to one another without underlying motives. My friend's idea of peace is when he gains a lot of money and doesn't care what happens to other people. My neighbor's idea of peace is when there is destruction. Ideas clash, and sometimes they clash violently (or peacefully if one sees war as peace).

[Ragamuffin]

The only way to reach full and complete peace would be for one body of leadership to rule over everyone. Simple as that. When there are more people, they will want separate things not only for the area they have come from but for personal gains as well. Only one can create peace because it is the human nature within itself that does not want peace unless it is to each individual's perception of the word. With as many cultures as we have currently there will not be peace for a long time. There are groups and civilizations that are trying to protect their ways and traditions and are angry at the "pop culture" that has emerged that has many of the newer generation of young adults and children caught up within it which decreases the passion they have for their own original culture. Eventually there will be peace though. After enough time, the human race will be almost completely mixed and there will only be one culture humans follow. This will keep people from attacking just because of the difference between them, and there will not be any major problems in the form of war. So I do believe there is peace, just at this time we can not achieve it.

Yeah, you couldn't possibly be more wrong.First, a one world government is a VERY bad idea. Not only will it highly restrict freedom, but it's akin to global slavery. You also neglect to mention that all this "diversity" that peaceniks love preaching so much would be destroyed.Have you ever entertained the thought that governments themselves and the power they crave are the reasons for modern warfare? Also, look at who funds BOTH sides of all the modern wars. It's not the people getting sent to die, I'll tell you that much.You're basically saying that people need to be reduced to mongrelized interchangeable drones with no uniqueness to them in order for "peace" to be achieved. Tell me then, why have so many civil wars broken out between people of the same ethnicity/cultural/religious background in the past? Frankly, I find your little vision sickening. Do you really think people fight over cultural differences on a large scale nowadays? No, it's about MONEY, and the UN (y'know, that little stepping stone toward the NWO) is one of the most oppressive forces on Earth. Why ANYONE would want a global government is beyond me. I think George Orwell had a few things to say about global government as well...But hey, people like you buy right into the propaganda.btw, google "UN agenda 21" and I guarantee you'll change your tune rather quickly.

[ƵeRø]

You Dont Have The RIGHT YO SAAY THAT!! AMERICA IS THE REASON WHY PEACE WONT OCCUR,WHICH COUNTRY IN THE WORLD STARTED WARS?? WAS IT IRAQ WHO ATTACKED USA??!!!! WAS IT AFGHANISTAN WHO ATTACKED USA??? THE MAIN REASON WAR WONT STOP IS USA!!!! I know that american ppl are good ppl 90% of them are good ppl BUT YOUR CORRUPT GOVERNMENT IS MAKING WARS AND THAT CANT BE DENIED!!THEY ATTACK FOR MONEY AND KILL PEOPLE FOR MONEY?!!!!! HOW ARE THEY EVEN CONSIDERED HUMANS?THEY DONT HAVE HEARTS!!!! AND THE COUNTRIES THAT FIGHT FOR THEIR PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT ISN'T THAT SELF-DEFENSE?????! IF YOU WERE ATTACKED BY SOME1 DONT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS?? SO DONT SAY THINGS WITHOUT THINKING!!!!! USA PUTS LAWS AND HUMAN RIGHTS WHILE THEY ARE THE PPL WHO KILLS PPL AND DONT GIVE A **** ABOUT THEIR LIFES?GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

Edited by LightOfTheSacredFlames, 03 September 2011 - 04:12 PM.

[shady]

i personally think there can never be peace any where you go. mostly because of emotions. like will create love, love will create jealousy and jealousy will create hate. so as long as people have emotions peace is just a fantasy people want to fulfill.

You Dont Have The RIGHT YO SAAY THAT!! AMERICA IS THE REASON WHY PEACE WONT OCCUR,WHICH COUNTRY IN THE WORLD STARTED WARS?? WAS IT IRAQ WHO ATTACKED USA??!!!! WAS IT AFGHANISTAN WHO ATTACKED USA??? THE MAIN REASON WAR WONT STOP IS USA!!!! I know that american ppl are good ppl 90% of them are good ppl BUT YOUR CORRUPT GOVERNMENT IS MAKING WARS AND THAT CANT BE DENIED!!THEY ATTACK FOR MONEY AND KILL PEOPLE FOR MONEY?!!!!! HOW ARE THEY EVEN CONSIDERED HUMANS?THEY DONT HAVE HEARTS!!!! AND THE COUNTRIES THAT FIGHT FOR THEIR PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT ISN'T THAT SELF-DEFENSE?????! IF YOU WERE ATTACKED BY SOME1 DONT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS?? SO DONT SAY THINGS WITHOUT THINKING!!!!! USA PUTS LAWS AND HUMAN RIGHTS WHILE THEY ARE THE PPL WHO KILLS PPL AND DONT GIVE A **** ABOUT THEIR LIFES?GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

i understand where your coming from and i totally agree with you but the main reason why america fights and creates war is because they help put people in power and the people they put in power start doing dumb **** which causes a rebellion from their country. therefor a civil war might break out and america decides to join the fight instead of admitting their stupidity. so what your saying is mostly completely right. the government is corrupt which makes peace jus a dream

[Shai]

Silly children, peace is a fantasy, as long as you don't say it isn't possible. I feel that peace now a days can only be expected in short doses, or not very long. I feel that when you have nothing to worry about during the day I call that peace. Not all of us may can experience it but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I find it funny that you say peace is a fantasy, you do know that people do tend to run to their own world to escape this reality. Some tend to bring their fantasies to life through games, music, art, words, actions.Some keep it to themselves some bring it to the world.The question is what are you going to do about peace, yours, others?

Edited by Grey Matter, 13 September 2011 - 12:24 AM.

[Auzzie Wingman]

True peace is more than possible. You just have to kill everyone else. Peace doesn't sound that nice anymore, does it?

[Siah]

@Above: Even if you killed everyone, I doubt you would be at peace with yourself. I personally don't think that total world peace is ever achievable, given the state of human nature. However, to stop pursuing it would lead to greater atrocities than already exist, so it's kind of a constant, <= fight.

[Yuto]

I will agree peace does seem like a stretch...Maybe this is tied in with God? For example whoever believes in God or religion will have a peaceful eternity.I don't really care either way, i guess it just depends on who's making the argument...i'm not one for peace or non-violence trust me!However i know friends of mine who believe in peace and they're all some of the nicest people even during hard times...so like i said just depends on your standing viewpoint or argument i guess It depends on how you view your everyday life...full of hate or full of love.

Edited by Lord Anubis, 07 January 2012 - 01:16 AM.