well popularity doesn't affect your life but intelligence doesmy answer would be to have a couple friends and just do good at schoolGPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - reddeath26
Popularity vs Intelligence (DOTW: 05/03/10- 05/10/10)
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 02:09 AM
Popularity means nothing, yet it means so much. Popularity is not important in life and yet it is. In my school, many popular people are also smart. Intelligence is far more important. I'd rather intelligence any day because even with popularity you are looked down upon as being dumb. When you open your mouth to speak, people whisper "What in the world is he talking about? Even your friends will call you dumb. People need friends, not popularity. Without friends, you can become extremely depressed. Popularity could easily end when school does because many people will go different ways, whether it be by moving or by spending more time with your family or job.
While I am not defending the person you are quoting, I must say this notion of 'connections' is ludicrous to me. While I have no scientific evidence proving anything, I can almost say that people who have connections, use them, especially many politicians. Life can be hard, why not use everything you have to your advantage? I have a really smart friend who just this past summer got an internship job for the government because his dad was head of the facility. He wasn't any less qualified for the internship. In fact, he plans to go back every summer and hopes to get a real job there after college.Than you would not be succeeding by your own means, but rather someone else's. Politicians for example often do that sort of thing, but the ones who do are not taken as seriously and command less respect from the public than those who get to office due to their had work and intelligence. Also, by doing that you would be getting ahead of people more qualified than you are for whatever it is you are trying to get ahead in. If enough people do this they collectively harm society.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 06:15 AM
Popularity means so much to some people who really want to be the popular one, yet it has NO value in life. Intelligence is way important, because it can actually get you somewhere in life. What someone really needs a combination of both... friends like may of said.I usually friend smart people and the ones that have a decent amount of friends.GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - reddeath26
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 06:29 AM
personally i never much cared to be popular anyway. my popularity usually came in having all of the answers, even if i was picked on... I was one of the ones that didnt give in to bribery or bullying though. my reply was always "if you beat me up, you still wont have the answer... and then you'll be suspended, too" so it was always more fun to just get better grades. plus, gave me much more time to enjoy what i really love.. playin mah vidja games
When was the start of all this?
When did the cogs of fate begin to turn?
Perhaps it is impossible to grasp that answer now,
From deep within the flow of time...
But for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst or laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Will there ever be an age without a war...?
Dreams and magic have no meaning without a civilized world...
The ignorant ones always strive for power, never realizing that what lies beyond is despair...
But maybe they will bring with them hope, and show us a new way of life...
God bless the visitors from the land of dreams and magic...
And glory to the soldiers of light who will lead us to the new world.
It's exactly what you're thinking. Trust me, it's ALWAYS what you're thinking.
When did the cogs of fate begin to turn?
Perhaps it is impossible to grasp that answer now,
From deep within the flow of time...
But for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst or laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Will there ever be an age without a war...?
Dreams and magic have no meaning without a civilized world...
The ignorant ones always strive for power, never realizing that what lies beyond is despair...
But maybe they will bring with them hope, and show us a new way of life...
God bless the visitors from the land of dreams and magic...
And glory to the soldiers of light who will lead us to the new world.
It's exactly what you're thinking. Trust me, it's ALWAYS what you're thinking.
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Posted 17 January 2010 - 09:16 AM
It's better to get good grades. I never really saw what was so good about being popular anyway. I'd rather have just a few close and trustworthy friends than to surround myself with people.But more so than popularity and intelligence, the most important thing is to keep a balance and to manage your time between friends and schoolwork. We want to socialize and have friends, but we also want to do well in school and improve our minds so that we can have a future. We can have both, can't we?
Edited by plinkon, 17 January 2010 - 09:45 AM.
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Posted 17 January 2010 - 10:56 PM
Popularity is highly overated. Most who would fall into the catagory of being "popular" don't even care about who you are. They're focused on money, clothes, and possesions. My experience shows that when it comes to the nitty gritty your so-called friends are not what they appear to be. Being intelligent doesn't mean you are going to be succesful. Most individuals are intelligent in their own way but its how they decide to apply it. But none of that should really matter. If you can't accept some one for who they are, intelligent or popular, then there is a bigger issue at hand. Acceptance and tolerance. In high school i certainly wasn't popular nor was I considered the smart person, the one you would got to for homework or advise and even then my freinds weren't my friends. There are very few people who will look past it all and that is the type of person i believe we should strive to be. Intelligence and popularity are labels and neither are important as individualism.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 01:00 PM
For me both popularity ang intelligence are important because if I'm just gonna be smart, I won't really have a big circle of friends and if I'm just gonna be popular, what will I gain in the future that will help achieve my goals. So that's why I try to mix things up so I can be both popular and still be intelligent. An example is from one of my experiences. When I did a history report about asia, I turned it into a song and sang it infront of class. So the teacher was impressed, and also my classmates.Even if we're smart, we can still be popular, depending in how we make our steps to be known by the whole student body. Even if we're popular, we can still be intelligent by giving time to study while being with friends.
Edited by sendreu, 04 February 2010 - 01:17 PM.
Doesn't sufficiently address the topic. reddeath26
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:22 PM
You are obviously confusing popularity with being superficial. Popularity isn't about money, clothes and other stuff. Popularity is about how people perceive you.Unlike intelligence popularity can't be used. You are either popular, or you're not. But it's impossible to have it, but not use it.So Popularity and Intelligence are nothing alike. One is something you have, the other is something you are. It's like comparing whether you'd like an apple, or being tall.So a better question would be "Charisma vs Intelligence".I used to be content with my intelligence. Until I got popularish I was content with just my brains as well. I think most of you assume being popular is as fun as it looks like. But it's waaay better then it looks like.Guys like drink with you (any excuse to get drunk is a good excuse),Popularity is highly overated. Most who would fall into the catagory of being "popular" don't even care about who you are. They're focused on money, clothes, and possesions. My experience shows that when it comes to the nitty gritty your so-called friends are not what they appear to be. Being intelligent doesn't mean you are going to be succesful. Most individuals are intelligent in their own way but its how they decide to apply it. But none of that should really matter. If you can't accept some one for who they are, intelligent or popular, then there is a bigger issue at hand. Acceptance and tolerance. In high school i certainly wasn't popular nor was I considered the smart person, the one you would got to for homework or advise and even then my freinds weren't my friends. There are very few people who will look past it all and that is the type of person i believe we should strive to be. Intelligence and popularity are labels and neither are important as individualism.
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Posted 15 February 2010 - 01:51 PM
What is right is not always popular. What is popular is not always right. But if you get intelligent and become famous, you will be popular and intelligent, and that is awesome.GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - jamzemu
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Posted 15 February 2010 - 10:42 PM
Popularity and intelligence are very important in school, but in my personal opinion, intelligence is more important. If you are popular you will most likely get more friends, but when you need them most they are less likely to stand up for you when you need them and some of them aren't really your friends, they're just using you as a way to get popular quick. But when you are intelligent, most of your friends are good friends, ones that will help you through thick and thin times. This is by-far the most important things at school.
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 12:33 AM
You really seem to have a grudge against popular people. You say that they're superficial, selfish and can't have any good friends.You are claiming only intelligent people can have good friends. Based on what?You don't think popular people have a few good friend they can rely on? I know 83% of all popular people have at least 1 or 2 friends who'll always have their back. Friends who'd travel to the other side for the world for each other (true story (I mean it this time)).Also, popular people usually have friends who're just as popular, so those friends don't need to get popular, they already are.I see only accusations in your argument. Therefor your argument isn't an argument, it's an accusation.Therefor, I declare your 'argument' invalid. :weep:Truly yours, Dominö.P.S. The most important thing in school was having fun.
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 08:53 AM
i would prefer to be intelligent rather than to be famous, what can fame do to you when you dont have it? getting my point? coz intelligence is permanent to a person and fame is temporary.,..GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - jamzemu
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 10:10 AM
Intelligence for the mere fact that lots friends won't help you get a job. Some people I know have about 5 or 6 very good friends and are too getting good grades. It is possible to be both.GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - jamzemu
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 11:33 AM
Stop schmolling Domino.Ok I guess its valid anyways.Popularity means (almost) everybody will know and talk to you and like you.However when you are intelligent and not too popular you will have only friends who admire you and like you for who you are.Popularity may get you so many friends that you are confused in who your real goo friends are. Also if you were to chose between the 2 Intelligence should not be sacrificed for popularity as once you are out of your area You have no popularity.I mean that you may be as popular as can be in one place but nobody knows you at the other place.This is not the case with intelligence as it is with you wherever you go. My intelligence (and OK manners and everything else I am) has helped me meet many new people,My popularity is not as likely to do so any time soon.Intelligence Can also win you popularity and fame and everything else while popularity will win you support.But in a situation where it is every man for himself Popularity will do you no good while intelligence can save your posterior.When you are alone Intelligence will help you popularity won't.Intelligence has infinite ravge while popularity is limited.In school I don't care about popularity as we are a tight knit group of kids and we have our own bunch of friends who we love.Us being raised by the school to be good people we all are nice and almost everyone likes each other well.Of course some are liked more and some less but that doesn't make a difference.Popularity can be limited to sections.You can be popular with some of your friends but be a noone in some other group.While intelligence will help you everywhere even if it is in art ( use creative methods to compensate for your lack of ability).So intelligence is definetely the winner in my opinion. Now you may argue and make me change it.PS 'In' School the most important thing is learning, Having fun applies to everywhere so meh,
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intelligency is good you are smart in the job what jou do and populair isn't so important because if there come a new person people forget jouGPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - jamzemu
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Popularity is one of the most sought after things in my middle school; in fact, our school is basically popularity-driven. Who cares about the clothes? Does it matter that one is best dressed? Many teens get so consumed in these aspects that Googling "how to get popular" is a common thing to do. When you type in "hot to get pop", "how to get popular shows 650 million+ results.It really is not that big of a deal. My parents have told be from ages 12-20, people tend to be really narcisstic and most students tend to get caught up in how to be popular. Intelligence is far more powerful. All one needs to tune out of all that poplularity business. I've won two math tournaments in my county and immediately I was very well known. Immediately I attracted attention everywhere I went. Notice how intelligence is more open-ended. It may be your artistic talent that makes you famous.Anyone that would like to prove me wrong, I would like to hear.(School=Learning)
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:38 AM
It can be the case that if you use your intelligence in a certain way, you can earn popularity with it. I point out someone like standup comedian George Carlin. In some aspects, he was almost like an English professor, and he certainly had a great grasp on the English language (much more than some internet users, for sure). Carlin would rattle off almost obscure English laws and maxims and make people laugh about it. Contradictions, paradoxes, Carlin nailed them all, and people loved him for it.If you can use your intelligence to be funny or such, there's no reason you couldn't be both.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:43 AM
I guess the first thing to do is to establish what "popularity" and "intelligence" are to me, since different people have different thoughts. Domino had something of an interesting point, in that popularity can be linked to charisma and general people skills, as opposed to the more superficial/shallow sterotype. Unfortunatly for me, in my schooling the most popular kids WERE the superficial and shallow type. Unless you looked perfect, had the perfect clothes, made fun of the right people, and hung out with the right people, you were not popular, period, end of statment. Yes, this put me on the outs with any of the popular kids, though I was also admitedly also an introvert and somewhat socially awkward. I wore glasses, I couldn't afford the top brand clothes, I had a terrible complexion, and I had long frizzy hair (of which a shinning moment of the popular kids was when several spent the day throwing paper airplanes at it to see if they would stick). My disabled brother was an even more appropriate and often target. Therefore, my views on the "popular" kids is somewhat tainted. I will agree that charisma and general people skills are very helpful in the long run, but they aren't exclusive to the popular kids. Certainly among the unchosen ones, there were those who were true leaders and were friends of basically everyone else, if only just tolerated by the popular clique.I'm also going to argue that there are multiple types of intelligence out there, including things like book smart, artisticlly inclined, and yes people skills. For schools though, the most common intelligence seems to be the book smart. I was firmly in this group, somewhere in the middle of the pack of acceptability. I had plenty of friends, but was definatly not anywhere near (or ever could be) popular. It's important to note that intelligence isn't limited to the unpopular kids. There were some popular people who were fairly book smart intelligent. In my school, they were not the top of the pile academically, so it's hard for me to be 100% fair on this. So in the end, is intelligence or popularity more important in the long run? I have to vote for intelligence based on my personal experience. While popularity can be an asset, it depends on why someone has gained that position. Being able to buy the best things and gaining peers by insulting those you percieve as benieth you can only get you so far (unless you're in upper managment for life... /end snark). Having the social intelligence to read a situation allowing you to adapt to it will carry you farther. Book intelligence will net you higher academic degrees, which generally will net you a better paying job in the long run (though with the current economy, who knows?).
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Posted 06 March 2010 - 04:19 AM
To play Devil's Advocate for a minute, some people, outcast types, may construe popularity with emptyheadedness and vanity and such. I'm not accusing anyone who's posted here of such, but it's an observation I'd made that some people resent popular types because, simply, they're not. I was by no means popular in middle school, far from it. I got my ass kicked on a daily basis. However, I was and still am very intelligent, and I just... well, blossomed is the best word for it. Retaining my intelligence, by the time I got to high school, I could be intelligent and still very much popular. I'm still in touch and still very much friendly with anybody that attended high school with me, from other seniors all the way down to freshmen, and it was because I became popular on my own terms. I never apologized for my intelligence, and in fact, to reference a post I'd made before, I could parlay my intelligence into humor and it sort of worked out. I guess I was funny and caustic enough, but whatever the case, I use this to reinforce my previous point: If I had to pick one, I'd go with intelligence, but factored in objectively, there's no reason you can't theoretically end up with hands in both pies.
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Posted 06 March 2010 - 06:31 PM
I go to a highschool where its not like in american movies,and popularity doesnt matter that much, i mean sure there are outcasts and stuff,but its not cause they do good in school,and the popular people that there are dont do badly at schoolGPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - Kiba
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 06:43 PM
What's wrong with being both? The number 1 graduate in my highschool also happened to be one of the more popular students. But that isn't the case for everyone I guess. You could look at the possibilities of both extremes first. By being popular, you now have connections. These connections can help you out later in life and then you would be on easy street. (Most extreme case people). Same goes for being exceedingly intelligent. You get a really nerdy job that pays a huge salary and you would be on easy street. Then there are the lesser extremes where nobody is happy. You could have mediocre popularity but have a crappy job and be miserable, or you could have crappy friends and have a mediocre job and be miserable. Life is generally one big miserable ball of crap and it is up to the individual to look past that and see what is possible for them and not what they are stuck with.
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Intelligence is way more important to me because without it how can we survive or live in this cruel world. I mean popularity is one thing and intelligence is another. If your dumb and popular you will share your ignorance because your so stupid.GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - jamzemu
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i say this a lot but... it really depends. a) it depends on why youre popular/ what youre popular for. b) it depends on if you are both inteligent AND popular. and c) it depends on how you react to being popular if you are. if you got popular BECAUSE you're inteligent: bonus! if thats the case and you're being a snob about it, you should consider being a little nicer. overall though im gonna have to go with inteligence, but only if you're nice about it!GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - Kiba
