It's useful for people who need it to increase their apetite because of certain diseases such as depression.also, it's legal in developed countries like norway because they give marijuana to adicts in controled amounts to prevent them from doing crimes in order to get money to get more marijuana
Legalization of Marijuana
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 05:11 PM
there's really no easy answer here but for me, the line comes down to what defines an illegal drug. I think morally, any drug down to caffeine should be considered drug use. Not saying that caffeine should be outlawed as an illegal drug, but I think it should be defined as drug use none the less. Prescription drugs also included. I think everybody has their 'fix', whether it be legal or not. It just so happens marijuana has been on the illegal side that we have this debate. In an ideal world, I would like to see all drugs legalized and have education as the norm - so if people want to experiment with things, they can, and they can see for themselves whether the education they've received about those drugs rings through with them. Or they can believe what they're told and never touch any drug their whole life. But if you live in western society today, I don't see many people getting along without some kind of 'fix' to relieve them of stresses or whatever.
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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:40 PM
Adults should be able to smoke it simple as that. Shouldn't be allowed to drive or smoke it in public but otherwise fine with me.
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Posted 24 July 2008 - 11:32 PM
They should, I think the necklaces and bracelets are pretty. And its fun to smoke yeah but I don't do it since its illegal I do it for the main reason I can take two hits and giggle for 2 hours.haha.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 06:45 AM
So, let's see a list of pros and cons (some of htem at least)pros- medical use, rope, huge economic boost, easier to regulate usage, recreation, decrease in # of people in jail (because marijuana related crimes such as dealing and etc. will be drastically cut back)cons- unhealthy, addictive (kind of), new legislation to consider, danger of people operating vehicles while under the influence, marijuana as a gateway drugi'm sure i've forgotten some and someone will point it out or someone will disagree with my positions, but that's ok. overall, i feel legalization would be the best way to control marijuana and benefit american society as a whole
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 09:15 AM
It's no more unhealthy than cigarette smoking or getting drunk. It's no more addictive than alcohol or cigarette smoking. The danger of people operating vehicles under the influence is smaller than if they were drunk. Alcohol and cigarettes are more of a gateway drug than marijuana.cons- unhealthy, addictive (kind of), new legislation to consider, danger of people operating vehicles while under the influence, marijuana as a gateway drug
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 01:57 AM
The people that drive and work intoxicated will do so if weed is legal or illegal. The legalization of weed won't effect their choice on driving or working high.the only thing that worries me is if it is made legal what about the people who would drive while high or work on construction sites while high
Edited by locallegend, 26 July 2008 - 01:57 AM.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 08:24 PM
@gunmanjagits not addictive, trust meIt is unhealthy to smoke anything, because you are breathing heated air, and humans arent made to live in super hot climates, therefore breathe in air of that heat. However, it is less damaging than alcohol or cigarettes for many reasons. check www.concept420.com for some answers, they have a nice FAQit would be better legalized, because its basically unregulated now, you still risk being ripped off, getting weed thats laced with stuff, being arrested, etc. wheras if its legalized, it will be safe and orderly.It's like the alcohol prohibition in 1920-1933 in US, so many people were violating the law, that they removed it. but left other laws to make it less dangerous. e.g. Canada you can only buy alcohol at designated stores controlled by the government.plus, its economically intelligent, as the government could tax it, and make a crapload of money@tessa leighYou're a lightweight 
@asectionI dont think all drugs should be legalized, as many of them are severely damaging to your health, like heroin, and meth.weed is far less detrimental, therefore more likely to be legalized
@asectionI dont think all drugs should be legalized, as many of them are severely damaging to your health, like heroin, and meth.weed is far less detrimental, therefore more likely to be legalized
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 10:36 PM
Make ALL drugs legal, but you can only sell them in certain places. Those places are run by the government, and the drugs are taxed. If you are caught outside of the area selling drugs, you should be charged.
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 06:10 AM
What a perfect time to contribute to this thread. In my opinion if medical marijuana was legal Heath Ledger wouldn't have died from legal drug overdose. Is that a good enough reason to legalize it now?Realistically I believe it should be legalized just like how Cali has legalized it. With proper restrictions and regulations we can keep it as a form of treatment to people who are just experiencing pain and anxiety attacks. It's only temporary but for cancer patients it is a form of relief.
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:32 AM
That's how it is in Oregon. Almost any one can take the proper steps and get a Medical Marijuana Card. It's wonderful and Oregon hasn't spiraled out of control or anything.What a perfect time to contribute to this thread. In my opinion if medical marijuana was legal Heath Ledger wouldn't have died from legal drug overdose. Is that a good enough reason to legalize it now?Realistically I believe it should be legalized just like how Cali has legalized it. With proper restrictions and regulations we can keep it as a form of treatment to people who are just experiencing pain and anxiety attacks. It's only temporary but for cancer patients it is a form of relief.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 11:17 PM
i think it would be dangerous cause then you would have high ppl runnning around the streets... think about itPOINTS were deducted for this post by hookshot!Please refer to the forum rules to find out why your points were deducted.
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Posted 15 August 2008 - 07:03 AM
It needs to be legalized to protect the rights of medicinal marijuana users. I recently watched a story on the news about a man who holds a medical card but was fired because there was thc in his sytem. He shattered 3 of the disks in his back in a car accident and was working as a computer programer for a large company. He is a responsible medical user and should have not lost his job.
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Posted 15 August 2008 - 03:10 PM
From what I remember, he smoked weed before he showed up at work. That's not responsible "medical use".
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Posted 17 August 2008 - 04:48 AM
I notice many people mentioning government control... marijuana can be locally grown easily. Unless (speaking for the US now) we went to a supergiant big brother government, it would be hard to regulate. How could you prove if someone was smoking a joint they grew or a joint they bought from rite aid?
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 06:39 AM
I believe it should be legalized for medicinal purposes. There're biblical reference that it should be allowed. Basically, it says that what god put on the earth he put for us to use. God gave it to us, it should be allowed. However, since it's easilly abused and the effects of its abuse are bad, it should be regulated. Currently, the reason it's not very legal is in part due to the drug companies that make money selling expensive products when many things can be grown in the back yard. If they could make peppermint illegal, I'm sure they'd try, seeing as it naturally helps upset stomachs, or how feverfew helps remove headaches. However, those being herbs with no bad side affects have no basis for illegalization, therefore they can't control their use. Long story short, it should be allowed medicinally.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 03:07 AM
Legal or not, the same people get it anyway, and without the danger of possession, underground black markets won't work anymore...Less crime, less deaths, etc.I say legalize it, though I'm against the drug in the first place.
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 04:37 AM
if marijuana became legal i would kill myself.who would want to take drugs?POINTS were deducted for this post by -Mario-Please refer to the forum rules to find out why your points were deducted.
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:00 AM
i think it should be legal, so potheads will have nothing to talk about! lol! jk jkbut it should bePOINTS were deducted for this post by -Mario-Please refer to the forum rules to find out why your points were deducted.if marijuana became legal i would kill myself.who would want to take drugs?POINTS were deducted for this post by -Mario-Please refer to the forum rules to find out why your points were deducted.
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Posted 27 September 2008 - 03:12 AM
It should be legalized, because it's less dangerous and lethal than booze or cigs.The problem is, once it BECOMES legalized, it will be taken over by big business, who will pump it full of chemicals to make more of a profit, and thereby negating any positives pot has over the other legal drugs....So ironically, it's better if it stays illegal... just the cops should look the other way, heh.
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Posted 27 September 2008 - 11:13 PM
if cigarettes, something with over 3000 chemicals in it should be legal,then marijuana should be too,even marijunana with things added to it, or laced with other drugs isnt as bad as cigarettes
Edited by lemoneh, 27 September 2008 - 11:13 PM.
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Posted 28 September 2008 - 08:13 PM
weed is more dangerous than a regular cigarette. it has 7X more chemicals and cancer causing agents than regular cigarettes. It's really dangerous, so that's why it's banned. The reason why tobbacco isn't banned is because (let's face it) it's a huge market in the southern USA, and if it wasn't banned, you wouldn't be able to set health & regulation standards. Marujuana is different, though... it's too dangerous to be sold at all.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 04:52 AM
This entire post is false.To start, here is a list of the number of coumpounds found in cannabis sativa(http://www.erowid.or...bis_info2.shtml) vs. the list of additives submitted to the HHS for US cigarettes(http://en.wikipedia....s_in_cigarettes). The numbers are staggering in the 2nd link. It's true, inhlaing smoke of any kind is bad for you, and cannabis smoke is no exception, but it is nothing compared to the burning of the average US cigarette.Legalization of cannabis is a great first step in finally ending the complete failure that is the war on drugs. It makes sense for a number of reasons. For starters, legalized cannabis would eliminate black market sales of cannabis almost immediately. It would keep many thousands of people out of jail on petty charges, which of course saves the government money maintaining the criminal justice and law enforcement system. The government would also be able to collect more taxes, which of course they love.There are currently 12 states I believe that have some kind of laws in place to allow for the medicinal use of cannabis.An interesting side note - Marinol, a pharmaceutical drug manufactured but United Pharmaceuticals, is the brand name of the substance dronabinol. Dronabinol is chemically identicle to the substance THC found in cannabis, yet cannabis is schedule I under US law and dronabinol is schedule III.weed is more dangerous than a regular cigarette. it has 7X more chemicals and cancer causing agents than regular cigarettes. It's really dangerous, so that's why it's banned. The reason why tobbacco isn't banned is because (let's face it) it's a huge market in the southern USA, and if it wasn't banned, you wouldn't be able to set health & regulation standards. Marujuana is different, though... it's too dangerous to be sold at all.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 10:50 AM
Very true. Hell, back in the 90's the feds thought they pretty much got Meth out of the US, only to have Mexicans bring it in here hundred-fold these days.Legalization of cannabis is a great first step in finally ending the complete failure that is the war on drugs.
Well see, that screws people like me over though ;[It makes sense for a number of reasons. For starters, legalized cannabis would eliminate black market sales of cannabis almost immediately.
Trials, paperwork and say, 1 month of incarceration would cost (state) roughly $40,000 per person, so yeah, they'd be saving millions a year...at least where I live.I'm more for decriminalization though, where they just tell you it's a no-no, take your weed (and probably smoke it), and maybe give you a small fine, thats what Mass. is doing due to a law that was passed last month.It would keep many thousands of people out of jail on petty charges, which of course saves the government money maintaining the criminal justice and law enforcement system.
Another reason why I'm against legalization, I refuse to support this government in any way, though I don't mooch off of it either like some choose to.The government would also be able to collect more taxes, which of course they love.
Yep. and it's also alot easier to obtain a cannabis card in most of those places too, it's not just for the terminally ill anymore. But, many of the 'pot clubs', as they're called, do not pay federal taxes, like in California, so they get shut down, because fed laws supercede those of the state.There are currently 12 states I believe that have some kind of laws in place to allow for the medicinal use of cannabis.
Well, you know (a big reason, not the only one) why cannabis was made illegal, right? Back in the day, the lumber industry heavily influenced the US government (even moreso than oil does today, one could argue), and when people were seeing the many uses for hemp, and the fact that pound for pound, it was much more durable than wooden/paper products, the lumber industry got worried that business would suffer. So a favor here and there later, bam, the growing of cannabis for ANY use was made illegal. Though during WWII when we needed materials to make strong rope, it was temporarily made legal again for farmers to grow it, but the farmers abused that and most turned to selling the bud on the side, since the government wasn't paying them much for using their land to grow cannabis on.I haven't posted ITT in over a year ;0An interesting side note - Marinol, a pharmaceutical drug manufactured but United Pharmaceuticals, is the brand name of the substance dronabinol. Dronabinol is chemically identicle to the substance THC found in cannabis, yet cannabis is schedule I under US law and dronabinol is schedule III.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 09:33 PM
I'm in strict opposition of the government as well, but I realize often times you need to work within the system in order to change it.Another reason why I'm against legalization, I refuse to support this government in any way, though I don't mooch off of it either like some choose to.
I haven't been to any dispensaries but I have been lucky enough to sample a few choice buds from a dispensary in california and I must say they were quite tasty, those sick people are smoking better than me half the timeYep. and it's also alot easier to obtain a cannabis card in most of those places too, it's not just for the terminally ill anymore. But, many of the 'pot clubs', as they're called, do not pay federal taxes, like in California, so they get shut down, because fed laws supercede those of the state.
There's on interesting documentary on this subject if anyone's interested. It's called "Hooked : Illegal drugs and how they got that way" It was produced by the history channel back in oh 2000 I think but anyway look it up on youtube I know it's there I'm just not sure if I'm allowed to post it. Anyway, it explains the legal history of drugs. There's an episode for cannabis, one for cocaine, one for opium and opiates, and the last covers lsd and ecstacy. It's really quite interesting.I understand what you're saying about decriminalization, and you make a good point, but I'm in support of legalization of all drugs. Federal drug regulation is unconstituational, so it's just wrong to begin with. The consituation reserves the power to regulate substances to states only. The very existance of an orginization like the DEA is unconstitutional as well.Well, you know (a big reason, not the only one) why cannabis was made illegal, right? Back in the day, the lumber industry heavily influenced the US government (even moreso than oil does today, one could argue), and when people were seeing the many uses for hemp, and the fact that pound for pound, it was much more durable than wooden/paper products, the lumber industry got worried that business would suffer. So a favor here and there later, bam, the growing of cannabis for ANY use was made illegal. Though during WWII when we needed materials to make strong rope, it was temporarily made legal again for farmers to grow it, but the farmers abused that and most turned to selling the bud on the side, since the government wasn't paying them much for using their land to grow cannabis on.
Edited by entheo_djinn, 07 December 2008 - 09:37 PM.
