Yes. The world would be a better place if it was legalized. There'd be no war if everyone smoked a joint a day. If Bob Marley was still alive he would tell you how it is.GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - kiza19
Legalization of Marijuana
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 06:02 PM
I honestly thing it should not be legalized, but decriminalized. Just make the penalties less harsh. For me, if it is legalized, an age limit will be placed, making it more harder / expensive for me to have. Trust. So no to legalization, yes to decriminalization.
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 06:53 PM
This.Though on the other hand, the revenue that the government would generate from it may help solve some financial problems...assuming that the government knew how to spend our money of course.I honestly thing it should not be legalized, but decriminalized. Just make the penalties less harsh. For me, if it is legalized, an age limit will be placed, making it more harder / expensive for me to have. Trust. So no to legalization, yes to decriminalization.
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny. -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 09:40 PM
Right, which is why many doctors presrcibe it to people with illnesses ranging from HIV to Cancer to Anorexia.:obtw, l2debate thxwhy is it so useful besides becoming happy and getting hungry all the time. besides that there isnt much of a reason
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny. -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
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Posted 28 June 2009 - 07:00 AM
one thing is for sure. it would DEFINATELY stimulate the economy. however most people who do smoke it would definately not like government control on it, because prices would be as the government says, and apparently it's going to get incredibly diluted.
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 01:32 AM
Many reasons to why marijuana SHOULD be legalized:- if it's legal, the government can tax it, which can help the US get the hell out of the recession it's experiencing.- it has many medical benefits which other forms of drugs, like alcohol, don't possess.- alcohol was once in a prohibition phase during the 1920's, but of course that ban was uplifted. Marijuana would see a same fate soon if people realize that marijuana is not as harmful as alcohol or cigarettes.- it would help lower crime rates once people realize they don't have to smuggle or sell marijuana in the underground market.But of course, people just look at the bad side effects of marijuana, forgetting that alcohol and cigarettes are just as worse yet those are legal. Sigh.
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 05:10 AM
cmon...rope?...the best thing that it could be used for is medical perpuoses for those with terminal illnesses. In this way, those who are dying could have their pain alleviated so that they could have a few last pleasant weeksi think it should be because its very useful ex. rope
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 08:22 AM
Okay you've clearly learned everything you know about weed from watching late 1950's government propaganda films. I will set you straight.1. Marijuana was outlawed because of a movement by representatives from the cotton industry to stamp out the new and cheaper fabric "Hemp". Hemp is more durable, cheaper to make, and can be made into anything cotton can. It would of shut down one of the biggest industries at the time, Cotton. As we all know, big industries have always spent lots of money to influence legislation. 2. Hashish or hash is the same as marijuana. It is marijuana cured without chemical additives or anything for that matter to produce a compacted marijuana brick that has a much higher thc content per gram. It posses no more risk than smoking regular weed. 3. Weed is not the "dried leaf" of the plant like you said. It is the flowering bud of the plant, except it is not pollinated by a male plant so it doesn't flower, but produces the high thc part of the plant, the bud.4. DEALERS CUT WEED WITH OTHER LOOK A LIKES? Are you kidding me? You have obviously never bought your own weed or have any first hand knowledge of what your debating. Weed is not a powder that you can 'cut'. You could throw look a like plant material in there, but if you can't tell the difference between "hey wanna get high": grass and "hey wanna mow the lawn": grass then you deserve to be ripped off.They reason weed will never become legal is because of people like you that operate under the stigma of weed being a "drug" in the same context of a chemically cooked drug. Please take the time to know what you are talking about instead of watching sitcoms on tv and thinking That 70's Show is providing facts.ok, here are my views.A few background facts about Marijuana:-Marijuana can make you mad because it affects the mind. Prolonged use has been linked to mental problems.-Marijuana, although it is a "mild-er" drug, still is bad. Hence why it is illegal. -If Marijuana WAS legalized, so would the plant; the Cannabis Plant. The Cannabis plant can also be used to make OTHER more DANGEROUS and POWERFUL drugs. Marijuana is the dried Canabis leaf, and the least potent. However, the sap can make Hashish which is much more potent and worse. So Hashish would also have to be legalised, bringing in a WHOLE OTHER debate on whether or not that is worth being legalised.HOWEVER:-Legalising Marijuana will allow the government to CONTROL the quality of the marijuana and ENSURE there are no bad chemicals or substances in it (besides the Marijuana it self)Drug dealers "cut' the marijuana and other drugs with other similar looking substances to make the actual content less. This can be very bad, because the substances are often not good to eat.-The government will be able to regulate the flow of the drugs, providing better support.-The packets will be able to have "Warnings" on them, much like Australian Cigarette Packets. As well as support lines etc.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:43 AM
Interesting opinions gentlemen! Living in a country which is known for it's liberated view on softdrugs ,The Netherlands, it's always intersting to hear/read other people on this topic. Though "Gummy King" is right in most of his points, you should know that the softdrugs which are sold nowadays are seriously stronger than in the 70's due to selective cultivation and that regular use does indeed influence the function of the brain. But so does also the use of alcohol. In The Netherlands where it is tolerated to consume softdrugs the only people who are enthousiastic about this are foreigners and tourists. Softdrugs are not candy and can do serious damage but it is a buffer which can avoid people using stronger drugs.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:35 AM
I don't see the harm in it being legalized, but I think that there are more pressing issues in the world than the legalization of weed.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 07:58 AM
Legalizing marijuana would be a good idea. What should be illegal is cigarettes. All they do is give people cancer, and no good feeling out of that one. The chemicals added to cigarettes are highly toxic and the smoke from cigarettes kill many many more people every year than marijuana.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 10:34 AM
Nah. Marijuana shouldn't be legalized. Problematic for families who are already trying to keep their kids away from it. And there are idiots who will just become lazy and just start smoking the stuff all the time without working. For example, you come back from a long day at school, then you see your parentals passed out, the house stinking from the stuff.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 06:40 AM
I am strongly for the decriminalization of all drugs and poisonous lizards. RELEASE MY BRETHREN YOU PETCO BASTARDS!Ahem.Drugs can be a vice. Sex can be a vice. Food can be a vice. What does this mean? Well, I, the Space Pope am feeling generous today so I will impart a small quantity of my vast forest of knowledge unto you humans. Humans participate in any of those aforementioned vices and the results can either be damaging or act as a stress reliever. Smoking a joint or paying 20 credits to insert your odd looking human genitals into another set of odd looking genitals can feel great and reduce stress, but too much of anything can be damaging if it gets in the way of your daily life of doing human activities, such as going to work or catching crickets for later consumption.Humans who place blame solely on a person place or thing are the real causes of trouble on Earth. Not as bad as Omicron Persei 8, but still troubling enough.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 07:27 AM
Honestly, sure. They should legalize it. Not so I won't get in trouble. I haven't done it in years... but the rate of use would skyrocket at first, but eventually it would go way way down. it wouldn't be a big deal, so then it would just be there.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:41 AM
Prohabition doesnt work, never has never will. besides if the us government taked it, we could pay a chunk of our deficite off. but dont legalize all drugs, ppl couldnt handle that yet.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:16 PM
i think they should, then the government could put Tax on it. there have been no reported deaths linked to marajuana so why not
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 12:12 PM
This is true. I personally find it annoying and immature of my fellow Americans when they say they want to move / travel to foreign countries just because of relaxed soft drug laws. There is much more to a country's culture then whether or not you can smoke weed there. Is the mature response of people, such as your self, in the Netherlands towards weed the result of it being legal or decriminalized? I imagine that if it's legalized we will be able to get past the stigma of it being an "exciting because it's illegal" drug and be responsible adults. Then again, America is built on the backs of the hard working but idolizes the glamorous and famous. Until we change our culture to hold the responsible above the reckless we will never stop having kids who think abusing drugs and alcohol is cool. PS: I'm not a anti drug officalite that thinks your all immature for doing drugs. I have done almost every drug under the sun, but as a mature, responsible adult who likes to experiment. Wait till your an adult to fool around with these things. Be safe guys.Interesting opinions gentlemen! Living in a country which is known for it's liberated view on softdrugs ,The Netherlands, it's always intersting to hear/read other people on this topic. Though "Gummy King" is right in most of his points, you should know that the softdrugs which are sold nowadays are seriously stronger than in the 70's due to selective cultivation and that regular use does indeed influence the function of the brain. But so does also the use of alcohol. In The Netherlands where it is tolerated to consume softdrugs the only people who are enthousiastic about this are foreigners and tourists. Softdrugs are not candy and can do serious damage but it is a buffer which can avoid people using stronger drugs.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 08:28 PM
I think it should not be legalized because poeple just use it to "fade" away from reality. it should only be used for medical purposes and not to forget your ex girl or boy lol
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 01:23 AM
I don't think we should legalize it because depending on the person marijuana can have some rather weird effect on the person and might make the person do weird things but this is my opinion
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 11:49 AM
LOLZ research your arguments fools or I will sweep down upon you from the heavens and bake you in the fury of my glory. CANNABIS has been misrepresented more than most drugs. When it was criminalised in the United States in 1937 it was due largely to the efforts of Harry Anslinger, then head of the Federal Narcotics Bureau. He wrote that when cannabis is used: ‘the willpower is destroyed ... the moral barricades are broken down and often debauchery and sensuality results.’One of Anslinger’s disciples claimed that cannabis made ‘a jellyfish’ of the user and ‘ruined careers for ever’. And they were still at it in the Sixties — Harry Giordano, one of Anslinger’s successors as head of the Narcotics Bureau, said ‘it will be a sad day when somebody decides to legalise marijuana* because what is the next step? ... I am afraid that this is just another effort to break down our whole American system.Such exaggerated claims about the harmfulness of cannabis arose out of Establishment wariness of the values of a ‘permissive’ society. In the willingness of the young to use cannabis, many saw a challenge to traditional values: pot smokers were seeking immediate experience, and they were not enthused by the ethics of competition or the impulse to acquire material wealth. This jolted the puritan conception of the place of pleasure in a decent society.But if the cannabis prohibition laws were the instrument of one group’s morality, the opposition to them was based on no less moral premises. Anthropologist Margaret Mead pinpointed the double-standard of the Establishment when she said: ‘marijuana is less toxic than tobacco and is milder than booze yet there is the adult with a cocktail in one hand and a cigarette in the other telling the child "you cannot".’The first concern when thinking of removing criminal sanctions from cannabis is the effect on criminal behaviour. The clear conclusion that has emerged is that, while alcohol is universally agreed to contribute to violent crime, cannabis has no such consequences. And where alcohol releases impulses and lowers the inhibitions which restrain aggressive behaviour, cannabis tends to lower aggression and increase passivity.Laws as they stand encourage people to reject cannabis in favour of a drug which has so much more potential for violent criminal behaviour.Alcohol’s adverse physical effects are well documented. Drunkenness itself gives rise to many injuries, mishaps and accidents while chronic abuse of alcohol brings nutritional problems likely to lead to stomach inflammation and fatal liver disease. Vitamin deficiencies endured by the alcoholic have been linked to deficiencies in the nervous system, impairment of vision and general loss of strength and coordination. Cannabis, although it has a mild potential to create psychological dependency, is not physically addictive like alcohol. Withdrawal from alcohol causes ‘the shakes’ and the DTs, while the mental consequences of vitamin deficiency and toxic psychosis through alcohol may amount to brain damage or prolonged intellectual deterioration. a process which leads to the visible phenomenon of premature ageing.An argument now invoked frequently to forestall legislative reform is that, in the absence of a simple means of determining whether drivers are under the influence of cannabis (as with an alcohol breathalyser test) society cannot afford to risk decriminalisation of the drug.Research into the relative effects of cannabis and alcohol on driving has indicated that where there is no significant difference in performance between drivers under the influence of cannabis and those who have taken no drugs, there is a noticeable decline in performance under alcohol. In addition, it is the regular users of alcohol who are most likely to drive dangerously, whereas only the most inexperienced of cannabis users have been demonstrated to drive at all dangerously.‘So even if cannabis is no more harmful than alcohol, and even if it’s considerably less harmful, that doesn’t mean we should legalise it. Two wrongs don’t make a right.’Classically the last refuge of the prohibition camp, this line of thought brings us back to the fundamental problem with banning cannabis. To continue denying calls for the legalisation of cannabis while continuing to confer legitimacy on the consumption of alcohol is to institutionalise a double standard — it is to assert that the mainstream majority can have their drug, but a large minority can’t have theirs, even if it’s less harmful.For more and more people, this double standard has acquired a vicious sting. Everyone knows that cannabis laws are not enforceable, and many are starting to realise that they are enforced in a selective and inequitable way. The real beneficiaries of the law are the profiteers who peddle the drug.Decriminalisation legislation in the Netherlands and in several states of the US reflects the shift in public and political opinion toward acceptance of the inevitability of cannabis law reform. But it has taken a long time to see the obvious — leaving in the meantime a generation of people who have been arrested, fined and imprisoned under the cannabis laws. Fun Fact : ‘Cannabis’ is the name of the plant. North Americans refer to it by the Mexican word ‘marijuana’.I don't think we should legalize it because depending on the person marijuana can have some rather weird effect on the person and might make the person do weird things but this is my opinion
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 07:03 PM
If they legalise it they will tax you like crazy. Should they? I don't know... If they trade mark a brand and they control the substance then I would say yes they should. But as of right now you buy some weed, smoke it and then the next day your dealer says it was laced with coke. Also large amounts of it will fry your brain and cause mental illness depending on the person. So right now if they did it right away I would say no.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 10:06 PM
Legalize it and tax it!!! the economy would rise up and we the country wouldnt be where we are now
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 10:51 PM
I say Legalize it all the one's who wants to smoke it dies (The addicts) and those who don't smoke lives. There's your cure for drug addictions etc..
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:18 PM
i like the idea of using it for medical situations but the thing is with that then there is always the few people who sneak it out onto the streets and it would really change nothing
