Pot's a narcotic, but not a deadly one. I think it should be legal, but only to people of a certain age (like 18 or 21).
Legalization of Marijuana
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Posted 14 September 2007 - 10:39 PM
smoking weed can get very addicting and plus its natural unlike cigarettes(...i think cigarettes should be illegal instead of weed)
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 06:51 AM
i dnt rekon it should be because more people will styart using it
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 06:53 AM
They should legalize weed and ban alcohol... I actually debated the subject in Austin. It was for Girls State which is a mock thing but still, I fought for it.
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 06:54 AM
i think they're just encouraging the use of it. as time goes by, wrong things becomes right.
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 07:16 AM
If it was legalized, 80% of all schools will have a minimum of 30% of all their students high, which means many things can occur: 1) Students will rape other students because they are high 2) Some students will jump off a building because of distortions.3) Students that have never smoked will start.4) Some students will die due to deprivation of air from smoking5) 70% of all the students will drop out or skip school6) Some parents will kick their smoker kids out of the house and thus increasing the homeless population7) If you live in an average community, every 7th-10th person you see will be high.8) Car crash rates will increase blindingly because high people drive and high people walk in the street.9) Teens who are high and get anywhere near little children will give them some Mari J and they will smoke it, like it, and give it to their friends and thus, Plagueing our youths.10) Thus, why legalize Marijuana?
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 07:10 PM
I think they should. Then we wouldnt hae people think it is cool cuz it is illegel.
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 08:08 PM
i think it should not be done because everyone i know will smoke it more, and thats just ghay
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 12:10 AM
I think it should be legalized. I love it. I dont care in a way if its legal or not i still do it but it would be beneficial if it was. That was it wont matter if you get caught cause they cant do anything to you.http://www.dgemu.com...howtopic=338404The truth on marijuana!!!Check it out!!
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 12:21 AM
are you stupid?weed does not make you rape people. weed does not make you jump off buildings.weed is so much less worse than cigarettes.weed does not hurt your body. cigarettes do.weed is natural. cigarettes are not.weed is not addicting. cigarettes are.why, then are cigarettes legal, while weed is not?If it was legalized, 80% of all schools will have a minimum of 30% of all their students high, which means many things can occur: 1) Students will rape other students because they are high 2) Some students will jump off a building because of distortions.3) Students that have never smoked will start.4) Some students will die due to deprivation of air from smoking5) 70% of all the students will drop out or skip school6) Some parents will kick their smoker kids out of the house and thus increasing the homeless population7) If you live in an average community, every 7th-10th person you see will be high.8) Car crash rates will increase blindingly because high people drive and high people walk in the street.9) Teens who are high and get anywhere near little children will give them some Mari J and they will smoke it, like it, and give it to their friends and thus, Plagueing our youths.10) Thus, why legalize Marijuana?
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 12:41 AM
LOL are you serious???? First of all if weed became legal it would have an age limit like alcohol and cigs.ok heres the deal from a users point of view.1.you dont suddenly get the urge to rape others when youre high. You just want to relax and chill or do something fun.2. Students would not jump off buildings. 3. a large statistics of teenagers try weed. Its there and something new so you cant say that students who didnt smoke will start.4. students dying from deprevation of air?? LOL actually theres a true fact that smoking hemp is beneficial for asthmatics so how can one die from not breathing??5. students drop out and skip school on a regular basis. And why are you making up statistics???6. once a person turns the age of 18 they are not subject to live under their parents roof. Now if they were minors then the parents would be considered guilty.7. who cares if people love to get high. its a great feeling8. Ok heres where you really messed up. Weed makes you paranoid not have accidents. You are alot more careful when youre high than when youre sober. 9. you obviously dont know that weed is not something you can just "GIVE AWAY" it costs money. And kids just dont really have enough money to be getting high all the time10...... Get some facts about the drug before you start ramping this issue with FALSE statements!!!If it was legalized, 80% of all schools will have a minimum of 30% of all their students high, which means many things can occur: 1) Students will rape other students because they are high 2) Some students will jump off a building because of distortions.3) Students that have never smoked will start.4) Some students will die due to deprivation of air from smoking5) 70% of all the students will drop out or skip school6) Some parents will kick their smoker kids out of the house and thus increasing the homeless population7) If you live in an average community, every 7th-10th person you see will be high.8) Car crash rates will increase blindingly because high people drive and high people walk in the street.9) Teens who are high and get anywhere near little children will give them some Mari J and they will smoke it, like it, and give it to their friends and thus, Plagueing our youths.10) Thus, why legalize Marijuana?
Edited by PrincessAi, 10 October 2007 - 04:56 AM.
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:23 AM
Marijuana was illegalized for a reason. Also, if they legalize weed, drug addicts will be encouraged and'll want the legalization of drugs like crack. Imagine what would happen if crack was legalized. Crack can kill you or force you to become a prostitute. So... Basically, what I'm saying is: Legalization of Weed will lead to Legalization of crack which will lead to deaths and prostitution.Do you want more death and prostitution because of drugs? If you do, you're one sick weirdo.@PrincessAi: You DO realize that you just told everybody reading this, that you comitted an illegal offense several times, right?
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Posted 14 October 2007 - 03:22 PM
1) Like mentioned before, people become chilled and laid back when they're high.2) Alcohol could cause distortions too, do you see drunk students jumping off buildings?3) Same with cigarettes and students are still pressured into drinking, same thing.4) Cigarettes...5) If it was only legal to a certain age, students shouldn't be smoking anyway.6) If your parents cared about legal weed, they'll care about cigarettes.7) I don't see that many people smoking cigarettes so.... no.8) That's like saying everyone that ingests alcohol is destined to drive drunk. All they have to do is add "don't smoke weed and drive" to the laws.9) Cigarettes and alcohol...10) Because it's no worse than alcohol or tobacco, infact those products are worse in some ways, which one's illegal?If it was legalized, 80% of all schools will have a minimum of 30% of all their students high, which means many things can occur: 1) Students will rape other students because they are high 2) Some students will jump off a building because of distortions.3) Students that have never smoked will start.4) Some students will die due to deprivation of air from smoking5) 70% of all the students will drop out or skip school6) Some parents will kick their smoker kids out of the house and thus increasing the homeless population7) If you live in an average community, every 7th-10th person you see will be high.8) Car crash rates will increase blindingly because high people drive and high people walk in the street.9) Teens who are high and get anywhere near little children will give them some Mari J and they will smoke it, like it, and give it to their friends and thus, Plagueing our youths.10) Thus, why legalize Marijuana?
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Posted 17 October 2007 - 12:26 AM
I'm not going to say that marijuana doesn't have medical uses. However, I don't think people are responsible enough to use it JUST for medical persons.So I say it should stay illegale. Sorry junkies.
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Posted 17 October 2007 - 08:29 AM
I think that they should legalize marijuana. Look back at the time when they banned alcohol. LOOK AT THE GANGS ISSUES! THE MAFIA!History lesson in 40 words or less:The government banned alcohol, which leads to the smuggling of alcohol. Organizations like the mafia became the leader of the smuggling business. From then on, the mafia became so overwhelmingly powerful that not even the cops can stop them.As I was saying, If the government don't legalize marijuana, organizations like the mafia are going to get even more out of control. Ban marijuana and deal with mafia problems, or legalize marijuana and deal with mindless, jello-for-bone junkies. Mafia? Junkies? I'd go with junkies. 
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 01:15 AM
Marijuana is illegal for these reasons:1. A decent sized part of America's economy is based on hemp, and if we legalize marijuana (which is hemp) then the hemp industry would suffer because there would be less hemp exporting.2. Marijuana has similar effects to alcohol, except marijuana is much stronger then alcohol. a shot of whiskey is nothing, even i could take it without feeling the least bit out-of-sorts, where as with most types of weed, one hit and everything starts to seem a little funnier.3. The dangers of marijuana have been extremely overdramatized by the government to make it look worse than it really is, and the general public wouldn't appreciate the legalization of marijuana. In counterspect, marijuana should be legalized for these reasons:1. If legalized, there could be a tax on weed2. You can't overdose on weed. You can get hungry, and tired, but you can't die.3. There will always be weed in this country, and legalizing or illegalizing it doesn't change much. there are just as many people who think its cool because its illegal as there are people who won't smoke solely because of the fact that it is illegal. Theres already a gigantic amount of the population that smokes, and obviously illegalizing it hasn't stopped them.4. If weed were legal, the government wouldn't need to worry about it constantly becoming more potent. There are always self-trained "herbologists" of sorts that are finding ways to make weed stronger. If the government controlled the weed industry, they could make it less potent, and thereby less mind-altering.So, I think i proved my point, weed should be legal(P.S. I quit smoking 8 months ago)(P.P.S. THE DEBATE SECTION IS HERE!Marijuana was illegalized for a reason.
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 04:52 AM
Marijuana was made illegal because of racism, fear and propaganda. Marijuana was known for a long time, and has only been recently illegal. When there was fear of Mexicans taking jobs around the Great Depression. Since people didn't like that, they were quick to notice that mexicans brought marijuana with them and made mexicans think themselves greater than they actually were. Same thing with the black people in the east. Black people became more bold; they would look at a white person in the eye or at white women. Then there's stuff about how someone thought that narcotics would be a good place to work and worked at getting it banned. So the purpose of getting marijuana banned isn't some noble ideal. Despite all that, I think it's a good thing that marijuana is outlawed.
The only problem is that the current people selling marijuana would most likely not be giving any of the taxes to the government. There are already people in this business, and since they're ignoring laws now, they can ignore any taxes later.1. If legalized, there could be a tax on weed
There isn't much hurt if an idiot overdoses on weed. Honestly, I wouldn't care if some junkie overdosed and killed himself.2. You can't overdose on weed. You can get hungry, and tired, but you can't die.
But there are also people who don't smoke because it's illegal. It's not like those that are smoking will stop, thinking "It's legal now, it's no longer cool so I'll stop smoking it." What will more likely happen is that more people will smoke it because it's been illegal for a while and now it isn't. They'll want to try it just to try it.3. There will always be weed in this country, and legalizing or illegalizing it doesn't change much. there are just as many people who think its cool because its illegal as there are people who won't smoke solely because of the fact that it is illegal. Theres already a gigantic amount of the population that smokes, and obviously illegalizing it hasn't stopped them.
That's assuming the government can get a monopoly on the weed industry, which I don't think is possible. My question is why would these herbologists want to make marijuana stronger? Does the fact that it's illegal have anything to do with wanting it to be more potent? I don't really think so. What could happen is that the government's marijuana couldn't compare to those who sell it on the street. If you want the effects, you would go to the streets and not the government, as it's too watered down. If the government want to compete, then they'll have to make their own marijuana more potent.4. If weed were legal, the government wouldn't need to worry about it constantly becoming more potent. There are always self-trained "herbologists" of sorts that are finding ways to make weed stronger. If the government controlled the weed industry, they could make it less potent, and thereby less mind-altering.
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 05:09 AM
True, I'll give you that one.The only problem is that the current people selling marijuana would most likely not be giving any of the taxes to the government. There are already people in this business, and since they're ignoring laws now, they can ignore any taxes later.
The point I was making there was that weed isn't dangerous. You're letting your own opinionsg get in the way of thatThere isn't much hurt if an idiot overdoses on weed. Honestly, I wouldn't care if some junkie overdosed and killed himself.
Yar, but over time weed will seem less "cool" and will be treated just like alcohol.But there are also people who don't smoke because it's illegal. It's not like those that are smoking will stop, thinking "It's legal now, it's no longer cool so I'll stop smoking it." What will more likely happen is that more people will smoke it because it's been illegal for a while and now it isn't. They'll want to try it just to try it.
I wasn't talking about real herbologists, i was comparing people who grow/sell marijuana to herbologists by saying that they typically will work at making there weed stronger so that people will buy their weed instead of other people's weed. Anyways, even if the government doesn't get a monopoly on the marijuana industry, and companies emerge selling their own weed, they would probbably still be charging tax, which would yet again go to the government.That's assuming the government can get a monopoly on the weed industry, which I don't think is possible. My question is why would these herbologists want to make marijuana stronger? Does the fact that it's illegal have anything to do with wanting it to be more potent? I don't really think so. What could happen is that the government's marijuana couldn't compare to those who sell it on the street. If you want the effects, you would go to the streets and not the government, as it's too watered down. If the government want to compete, then they'll have to make their own marijuana more potent.
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 08:26 PM
Of course I'm letting opinion affect my thinking. That's the whole point of debating this. Look at it this another way then, weed isn't as dangerous as what? Cocaine or opium? So basically you want people to smoke weed rather than opium or something else where you can overdose? My opinion is that if they're at a level where they won't OD on cocaine, then it won't really matter if they smoke marijuana or cocaine. But if their addiction is at a level where they'll OD, I wouldn't care if they did die. As heartless as that may sound, there's already enough problems in an already crowded planet. Besides, what would happen if you were high and you were driving? With slowed reaction times, you could easily get into car accidents. And just like alcohol, even if you make smoking and driving illegal, there would still be people who do it.The point I was making there was that weed isn't dangerous. You're letting your own opinionsg get in the way of
But in general, there will be an increase in the number of people who smoke weed. There will also be an increase in the number of people who might get addicted to it. If you add more people who smoke weed, it makes sense that there would be more people who become addicted to it. And let's not forget that there's quite a big drinking problem. Considering the addiction problem with weed when it's illegal, how many first timers will eventually get addicted to it when it's legal.Yar, but over time weed will seem less "cool" and will be treated just like alcohol.
Oh, I understood you weren't talking about real herbologists. I was just using that title because you already did, so I thought that by calling them the same thing you did, it would be easier and faster to identify them. If you had called them XYZ, I would have followed suit.And you're answer as to why they strengthen weed was the whole point of what I was saying. You say they work at making their weed stronger to get more customers, and that's my point. If these people do find ways to make their marijuana better, people will buy it from them. Therefore, the government's watered down weed won't sell nearly as well as John Doe on third street. It's basic economics, consumers want the best product for the best price. What would end up happening is that the government (or the private company) would have to make their stuff more potent in order to compete with John Doe. And the private companies probably could make stuff more potent with their money, but then that brings up the question of whether or not the government would allow a kind of marijuana on steroids in the market. One reason you consider legalizing marijuana is that you consider it safer than other drugs, but that reason might disappear if there's more competition.I wasn't talking about real herbologists, i was comparing people who grow/sell marijuana to herbologists by saying that they typically will work at making there weed stronger so that people will buy their weed instead of other people's weed. Anyways, even if the government doesn't get a monopoly on the marijuana industry, and companies emerge selling their own weed, they would probbably still be charging tax, which would yet again go to the government.
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Posted 10 December 2007 - 01:37 AM
You can die of drinking too much alcohol. You can't die of smoking too much marijuana. So yeah, it should be just as legal as drinking.
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Posted 10 December 2007 - 07:57 AM
i REALLY don't care if marijuana is legalized i just believe it should have some rules applied to it. i believe it should be treated like both cigaretts and alchohol. no one younger then 21 can have it cause it affects your ability in school and really only adults should be allowed to have it anyway. Then there should also be like a blood marijuana level for driving because on a large amount of people it does have a negative driving affect. The cigaretts idea is that there should be no advertisement on marijuana becuase it isn't the best item and there should not be marijuana parties my main problem with it is the second hand side effect you can get high off the smoke and that's why i want the cigaretts rule of mariuana should be considered smoking so no marijuana use indoors cause someone like me who never wants to touch it but doesn't care if someone else wants to shouldn't have to worry about it. i don't care if they sell it i just want some limitations like there is on cigaretts and alcohol and then i don't care about use and posetion but then i hope all you dealers know the value will drop and you'll have to get a real job cause stores will sell it and it no longer would be hard to get. so when supply rises value will drop. just keep that in mind it being illegal makes you money. 
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Posted 10 December 2007 - 05:09 PM
holy crap that was funny.did you know that 67.8% of all statistics are made up? Where are you pulling these percentages from? No one can know what the actual percentages are until its legalized. I think if its restricted similarly to alcohol, it could be a good thing.If it was legalized, 80% of all schools will have a minimum of 30% of all their students high, which means many things can occur: 1) Students will rape other students because they are high 2) Some students will jump off a building because of distortions.3) Students that have never smoked will start.4) Some students will die due to deprivation of air from smoking5) 70% of all the students will drop out or skip school6) Some parents will kick their smoker kids out of the house and thus increasing the homeless population7) If you live in an average community, every 7th-10th person you see will be high.8) Car crash rates will increase blindingly because high people drive and high people walk in the street.9) Teens who are high and get anywhere near little children will give them some Mari J and they will smoke it, like it, and give it to their friends and thus, Plagueing our youths.10) Thus, why legalize Marijuana?
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Posted 10 December 2007 - 10:29 PM
Yes, to keep out those Mexicans.Marijuana was illegalized for a reason.
I think that alcohol should be made illegal. We're allowing too many things to be legal! First alcohol today, tomorrow crack, you know that's what the drug addicts want. And everybody knows that alcohol is the gateway drug!Also, if they legalize weed, drug addicts will be encouraged and'll want the legalization of drugs like crack. Imagine what would happen if crack was legalized. Crack can kill you or force you to become a prostitute.
As a prohibitionist I wholeheartedly agree with your statement. It's bad enough we allow people to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol and take addictive prescription mediation, alcohol and cigarettes cause enough crack addiction as it is! We don't need marijuana legal too. I think all humans should all just stop taking drugs of any kind period, don't you agree. I never needed advil or tylenol, so neither should anybody else!So... Basically, what I'm saying is: Legalization of Weed will lead to Legalization of crack which will lead to deaths and prostitution.
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Posted 10 December 2007 - 11:01 PM
I wasn't comparing weed to anything, weed just ISN'T dangerous. Just like sitting on the computer ISN'T dangerous. I'm not saying "Sitting on the computer is less dangerous then jumping off a building" I'm just saying that it isn't dangerous. There may be small consequenses over long time use for both (weed = bad lungs because its smoke, computer = obesity because you're not being active) but neither can be deadly. Sure, you could do stupid stuff while under the influence of marijuana, and the stupid things you do could be fatal, but thats a user-side error and should not be blamed on weed. Weed just isn't dangerous enough to be illegalized.weed isn't as dangerous as what?
Well that'd be nice, but thats not my point at allSo basically you want people to smoke weed rather than opium or something else where you can overdose?
Its the same as drinking and driving. If you need to be transported from one place to another while high or while drunk, you should get a designated driver.Besides, what would happen if you were high and you were driving?
and thats why we just have to hope that the drivers are caught early.And just like alcohol, even if you make smoking and driving illegal, there would still be people who do it.
There are no addictive properties to marijuana. You're just as likely to get addicted to porn, or get addicted to watching tv. People don't go to twelve step programs because their addicted to weed, they go because of serious drugs like meth, coke, heroin... addictive drugs.But in general, there will be an increase in the number of people who smoke weed. There will also be an increase in the number of people who might get addicted to it. If you add more people who smoke weed, it makes sense that there would be more people who become addicted to it. And let's not forget that there's quite a big drinking problem. Considering the addiction problem with weed when it's illegal, how many first timers will eventually get addicted to it when it's legal.
My bad.Oh, I understood you weren't talking about real herbologists. I was just using that title because you already did, so I thought that by calling them the same thing you did, it would be easier and faster to identify them. If you had called them XYZ, I would have followed suit.
You could look at it that way, but look back at alcohol, it was illegal for a while, and people made up for it by brewing their own, but now how much moonshine or home-made alcohol do you see or hear about? none. because it was pointless to buy illegal alcohol when theres legal alcohol as well. Same thing will happen with marijuanaAnd you're answer as to why they strengthen weed was the whole point of what I was saying. You say they work at making their weed stronger to get more customers, and that's my point. If these people do find ways to make their marijuana better, people will buy it from them. Therefore, the government's watered down weed won't sell nearly as well as John Doe on third street. It's basic economics, consumers want the best product for the best price. What would end up happening is that the government (or the private company) would have to make their stuff more potent in order to compete with John Doe. And the private companies probably could make stuff more potent with their money, but then that brings up the question of whether or not the government would allow a kind of marijuana on steroids in the market.
Sure people will get stupider if the competition increases, but the drug itsself will always be safe.[edit:]Also, people need stop blaming the government for problems. If they do legalize marijuana and you don't like it, exploit the downsides. You don't need something to be illegal for people to know its bad.One reason you consider legalizing marijuana is that you consider it safer than other drugs, but that reason might disappear if there's more competition.
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 01:01 AM
How can you make a plant illegal.... It's from the earth.... stupid..for anyone who never tried it... it's awesome.And if you don't like to smoke there's always vaperizers.Just a correction.... people go to marijuana treatment because it's better than jail.So it kind of inflates the number of people that are 'addicted' to it and needs help.To people who think Marijuana is bad and should be illegal.... try it before you bash it. oh and get your facts straight too.
