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[Ragamuffin]

I personally do not judge people based on whether they have tattoos or not, simply because I can't be one to judge. I've seen respected doctors with full sleeves, and the lowest of people without as much as a scar on their body. So to assume that someone behaves a certain just by their appearance makes no sense to me.

Thank you for showing yet another example of political correctness run amok.You shouldn't assume someone behaves a certain way because of the way they look? Okay, partially true, but are you going to tell me that a girl with a tramp stamp isn't easy? That a guy with a sXe tattoo isn't straight edge? People get these tattoos to broadcast their beliefs and personalities, so why not judge?That said, most tattoos I see are nothing more than tacky fashion statements, and that alone makes me think less of those people.

[spitt]

honestly working in retail can really show a lot random stuff. It can cause a perception on someone but that's almost based on what an individual may perceive also. like "jail tattoos" vs. a clean Professional one, you can tell the difference. much like a common stereotype, most ppl with sloppy homemade tattoos are on the trashy side not all, does that mean they are a bad worker? or bad person? not necessarily. seeing a name signed across an overweight woman flapjack? yeah, kinda gross and not too flattering, i hope for her better judgment that where she works she does not wear a v-neck.A well placed tasteful and meaningful tattoo can tell a story and be used as conversation at a later time.

[BrockLobster]

Thank you for showing yet another example of political correctness run amok.You shouldn't assume someone behaves a certain way because of the way they look? Okay, partially true, but are you going to tell me that a girl with a tramp stamp isn't easy? That a guy with a sXe tattoo isn't straight edge? People get these tattoos to broadcast their beliefs and personalities, so why not judge?That said, most tattoos I see are nothing more than tacky fashion statements, and that alone makes me think less of those people.

They are precisely there to announce whom you are to avoid you having to waste your breath announcing it verbally. Your tattoos do you that favor of letting people know the type of person you are, including geniuses, tramps, trash, video-game nerds, politicians, doctors, Christians, Muslims, and Jews. These things are used to announce whom you are, then the same people complain about being judged for them. We're not out judging you for the principle of the tattoo (though some do), we're judging what your tattoo is and what it says about you as a person. It helps us decide whether or not we like you as a person. People use clothing, stores they visit, websites they use, their interests, and all other beliefs and characteristics to announce and shape how and whom they are, declaring to the world how they wish to be viewed via their actions. this includes getting a tattoo of anything which may make others dislike you. This is simply how things are. they are neither definitely positive or definitely negative, but they are real.This doesn't particularly target (bar the "you" pronouns). This was a general "we" and "you" statement.

Edited by BrockLobster, 29 October 2010 - 07:33 PM.

[Ragamuffin]

I actually have a tribal tattoo on my shoulder already! I love it and I have only gotten negative comments from older family, Most people are pretty modern when it comes to tattoo's so I don't think you will have much trouble. I can't say I am a fan of facial tattoo's but I don't think a person is useless just b/c of tats.

Tribal tattoo? As in, something that actually reflects your family/country/heritage, or just some design that you think "looks cool"? Yeah, people can do whatever they want with their bodies, but don't expect everyone to think that your choices are smart ones. Being "modern" or not has nothing to do with it, either. I've got nothing against tattoos if they actually mean something, but getting them as a fashion statement is retarded.Hope you didn't get that tattoo to seem "different"...just like the hundreds of thousands of others who had the same idea.As an aside, I love when white people get Asian and Sanskrit tattoos. You know that just makes you look like a douche, right? It's not part of your culture, and no matter how hard you pretend it never will be.

[Ragamuffin]

I really believe a tattoo should have a symbolic meaning behind it. it representing a stage or period of your life that is coming up or going by.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel.Back in the day, tattoos were gotten mostly by prisoners, the military and bikers because they held some sort of significance. Even further back, they were gotten as proof of becoming a man in many tribes. Now, they've become a fashion accessory, an expensive and painful one to remove at that. When I see those butterfly tramp stamps, I don't think "oh man, she's such a free thinking individual!" I think, "what a dumb whore."My brother got a few tattoos about 10 years ago because his friends were doing it. Not even a year later he did whatever he could to cover them up. They weren't bad choices really, but it looked as if they were done by a six year old.

[Ragamuffin]

Personally, yes I do. I mean who wouldn't? People may say they don't, but I believe deep inside, all people, when they saw someone with tattoo they are judging them. But most of them just keep just keep their judgment within themselves. Whether positive or negative? I think it depends on the design.

Exactly. If a person gets a tattoo to express themselves, then it only makes sense to judge them on it. If they didn't want to be judged by it, then they wouldn't have wanted to "express themselves" with a tattoo in the first place.

[kriogenik]

of course i judge them, the same way everyone judges anyone they meet in their whole lifes, tatooed or not.people judge, its natural to judge other people, we just need to know wheter to say what we think or keep for ourselves...if you like someone's tatoo theres mostly no harm in saying it to them, but if you feel disgusted by it then you should keep it to yourself and just avoid contact with this person.meaning is also important in a tatoo, you need to think about the value it will have for you because the pain to get it is hard to endure and the removal is worse and real expensive...remembering important people(no girlfriends please), important events or places, or anything with a strong meaning to the person, these are things tatoos should be done for... not the usual "i'm cool and trendy, look at me" stuff.

[acg452]

Beyond critiquing the artistic value of the tattoo itself, no. Some of the best people I know have tattoos, and I don't think it either adds or detracts from them. It just is.GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - tedsb16

[boricuagurl25]

Personally, I do not judge people on tattoos or in any other way. Tattoos are a way of a person expressing themselves and showing others how they feel. To me, a tattoo is like another person stating their opinion but instead of with words, through their own sense of art. If a person decides to tattoo their whole body, it is their decision, and I do not think anyone should judge because it is there body and they should do whatever they please to do with it.

[Ragamuffin]

Personally, I do not judge people on tattoos or in any other way.

False. No human being has ever lived without passing judgment on others, it's a cornerstone of societal living.

Tattoos are a way of a person expressing themselves and showing others how they feel. To me, a tattoo is like another person stating their opinion but instead of with words, through their own sense of art. If a person decides to tattoo their whole body, it is their decision, and I do not think anyone should judge because it is there body and they should do whatever they please to do with it.

Okay, if a tattoo is what you say it is, then couldn't you extrapolate a few things about the person based on their tattoos, and by extension make a judgment on the person based on what they're trying to say with them?A lot of people seem to forget that "judging" isn't necessarily a negative thing. If you see someone giving a homeless man a dollar and think "oh, that person seems really nice", you're still passing judgment on them.

[DemonSol]

I don't judge people with tattoo's although I don't think If i seen someone working their job, with tattoos covering them, Not sure How I would feel,GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - tedsb16

[Ragamuffin]

I saw this post while cleaning up this thread, and even though it's old, it's hilarious and worth responding to.

The question was whether or not you judged people because of their tattoos. In my case those are things that I do judge if they are inked on someone's skin. I do not believe people should be subjected to symbols of hatred no matter what the medium is.

Like I said before, what about people who don't want to see religious symbols? There are plenty of people who equate say, Christianity with hate. Don't go around making blanketed statements on what people consider hateful. Anyway, there's always going to be hatred in the world, deal with it.

If someone painted a swastika on a building I would have the same issue with it. People have the right to do as they please with their bodies but that does not mean that I have to approve.

Nobody said you have to, but there's the issue of saying "no one has to look at it". Again, you can't judge what passes as offensive to everyone else. You got pissed that I called you on that and you decided to make a long-winded, boring as hell post because I hurt your feelings. BAWWWWWWWWW

In fact by the same token I have a right to my dislike even if you dissapprove.

What does this even mean? Stop whining.

I answered the question and said why I felt that way to back up my viewpoint in my original post. I do not dislike all tattoos, just ones that have no meaning and/or are offensive because they are full of hate towards entire races/religions.

That's fine, and if you had worded it that way earlier, than I wouldn't have called you on your "no one has to look at it" remark.

The examples that you gave would be the basis of someone else's judgement of people with those tattoos.

There's the issue I had with your original post. Saying "no one should have to look at blah blah blah" implies that you know what's best for other people. You don't

Your Howard Stern commentary is also completely out of place within this discussion and irrelevant.

No, you were just too stupid to understand it. Let me spell it out for you:*Person A gets offended by x*Person B does not get offended by X*Person A tells person B that they're wrong, and tells people C, D, and E that they should also feel offended.*Person A ignores the fact that they're willingly exposing themselves to X, and is trying to push their viewpoint on others.Pretty much what you were doing.

Not to mention your last statement makes no sense, since if it is my personal taste than of course it concerns me.

I was pointing out that what offends you personally isn't necessarily what offends others. How many different ways do I have to explain something so simple to you?

You contradicted yourself by asking, "should nobody have to look at those either?" and than two sentences later stating that no one has to look at anything.

Sarcasm; look it up.

Also, I think you were trying to say, "go find something else that suits you and don't concern yourself with things that may be offensive to your personal tastes." at the end there.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

The may not contradicts whatever point you were trying to make. Your post takes what I said out of context, you do not have any real argument. In fact most of your posts in this thread would be akin to trolling. Most of them are just your random observations or completely undebate-like statements such as your single sentence reply to another post, "you are everything that is wrong with the world.". Perhaps you need a refresher course on the rules of this forum.

tl;dr - you like whining and got butthurt that I didn't agree with you. You're lucky I didn't come across this post when you made it, or I probably would've banned you from Debates, because your posts are pretty poor.btw, I wrote the rules of this forum. lol