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[DJ Night Force 9]

I am seriously wondering this. That game is even more generous on extra lives than Super Mario World was. I had easily over 50 by the time I got through World 1. You get extra lives from the large abundance of coins, the red coin mini-game, certain toad houses, and of course the flag pole which if you have the propeller mushroom is a guaranteed 1up.If they are going to do that, then why have a life counter? You never have to even worry about it. This game was supposed to go back to its roots in terms of challenge and that it does well in terms of level design (only they are far longer than ever before) but in say Super Mario Brothers 3, you would be lucky to get 10 surplus lives. Either this game gets insanely tough later on where you'll need each and every one of them or they didn't want to alienate certain groups of gamers. I found even funnier that there is a sequence which can be unlocked very early in the game that tells you literally how to get infinite lives.

[Auzzie Wingman]

This isn't the same question as yours. I haven't had the pleasure of playing this game, but I wonder:If you've got four players on screen and one dies, what happens?Also, Health Bars are the future!

Edited by Bash the Government, 25 December 2009 - 02:58 AM.

[Chiri Kitsu]

Deduct points for an off topic post! :facepalm:But yes, at this point in gaming, I too don't understand why so many lives are given freely. There is no more point of having them, unless you play the game bad to the point that you would use 50 lives to beat a stage...

[Sir VG]

This isn't the same question as yours. I haven't had the pleasure of playing this game, but I wonder:If you've got four players on screen and one dies, what happens?Also, Health Bars are the future!

If they have extra lives, they will respawn in a bubble in a short bit. If they don't, they sit out until 100 coins are collected and everybody gets an extra life, then they can join back in.Also funny to note, is that if you die a bunch of times (8x in one stage, I think), the game will give you an option to PLAY THE STAGE FOR YOU.Seriously? Wimps.

[Dannyslr81]

Also funny to note, is that if you die a bunch of times (8x in one stage, I think), the game will give you an option to PLAY THE STAGE FOR YOU.Seriously? Wimps.

I know someone who let "Luigi" use the"Super Guide" on a castle and it let them go to the next worldSeriously? WTF?@DJ the game gets harder but if you play with extra players(like I did not out of choice btw) the game is a cakewalkYou also can get like 6-8 lives when the 2 big goombas come out in world 1 by jumping on their head without falling and defeating the smaller goombas that come out of it(obviously)there are other ways to get infinite lives just search them on youtube(even though you would probably figure out most of them)

[Shripe]

Super Guide? Worst idea ever. Oh, and the ridiculous amount of lives definitely takes one challenge away from the game.

[DJ Night Force 9]

Super Guide? Worst idea ever. Oh, and the ridiculous amount of lives definitely takes one challenge away from the game.

The levels are difficult enough to complete so the challenge is there but there is pretty much no penalty for dying due to the outrageous number of lives.In the event that you lose all of yours though, you don't even GET a game over. Just a counter increments that tracks the number of continues you use and your life counter resets to 5. So yeah, the life counter is pointless. There should have just been something to keep track of the number of times you died just to show you at the very end of the game.@Auzzie Wingman: The person who dies loses 1 life (like it matters) and comes back on screen in a bubble which can only be popped by touching another player in which case that player resumes playing. The level only ever stops when all players are dead (or in bubbles) at the same time. The bubble is also abusable because you can trigger it just before dying and not lose a life.4 players is probably too chaotic so dying will happen a lot when everyone clases with eachother (two was hard enough).

[DJ Night Force 9]

Well many months later, I finally got around to playing this from start to finish and what I said before still holds true. By around world 7, I had 99 lives (no, I didn't grind lives at any point in the game).I think another perfect example of too many free lives is world 7-6 (i.e. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=0hWqG-_B0S8 ) which is by far the most difficult stage in the game but to offset that, it hands you 1up's like crazy. You jump on a slew of Parabeetles (originally from Super Mario Bros. 3). Each one you land on plays a note. Jump on 7 (as in seven notes in a musical scale) and get a 1up which drops in from the top of the screen. Now since there are dozens and dozens of these platforms in that level, you can see where this is going.To address what Uberedas said, you could still keep track of the number of times a player dies even without a life counter.

[Limitlessinfinity]

I recently played this game with a good friend of mine, and both of us are good at Mario games. The first few worlds were pretty easy, and we had about 50 lives each going into world 5, however I noticed that the stages started to get harder for multiple people to play due to things like extremely small platforms and forced progression levels. There was one level in particular in world 8 that was almost impossible with multiple people because the platforms were not only tiny but they fell when stepped on. And then of course things went terribly in world 9; we repeatedly died and moved farther and farther from our goal of 99 lives each. Even with two good players the game was difficult, save the essentially infinite lives. So certain levels are easier with two people, and others are much easier with just yourself in my opinion. Oh and the worst way to play is with one good person and two or more Mario newcomers, because like people said before the good person is going ahead and trying to complete the level while the two new people are struggling behind, killing not only each other but the good person as well. And if you wait up for them, you end up loosing even more lives, so it's a loose loose situation when it comes to more than one newcomer, and everyone gets angry or upset.

[DJ Night Force 9]

Oh I don't doubt that it was a good idea to have a large amount of lives in order to accommodate multiple players w/ a shared lives system (namely on levels with small platforms) and those whom don't play video games too often. I just figured that considering how they are handed out so easily and continues are infinite, might as well just go for infinite lives and have a "death count" at the end of the game for each player. Then again, I guess it wouldn't feel very "mario-like" if 1up mushrooms were suddenly absent from the game. I'm sure there would be a lot of complaints about it.