Are some legends interconnected?Take the dragons for example, how could civilizations ALL OVER THE WORLD, with no contact to the others, all have the exact same myth?Think about it: Catoblepas, quetzacoatl, eastern dragons, western dragons, dragon-like creatures from india, australia, and north america?same thing with unicorns! what is with this?we need to DEBATE!!!!
legends interconnected?
Started by namragog, Aug 17 2010 05:51 AM
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:40 PM
Its really interesting and there are many more examples of it.Noah's ark. We all know the normal version but In Hindu Mythology The matsya avatar The first on the linked page. Is almost the exact same story. There are many other instances where you can see relations but i just wanted to say this.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 04:44 PM
Excatly. same as with hell. there is always one version of the underworld in nearly every religion. even with the mayans, who had no connection with europe at all.GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - Kiba
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:18 PM
It is the same with religen also, like you said, how can people with 0 contact and no way of contact all of had the same idea!I think it might have something with humanology, like animals have instincts. Humans must have some kind of instinct about certain things.. An example could be something like this... Early humans must have seen some weird animals that we have not found yet, who knows, maybe early man did see 'dragon-like' animals. We just cannot prove this because the bones have never been found.The idea of unicorns could back this up... An adaptation of a horse? Or maybe one time horses had a horn? Or even a weird mutation that is now not part of the genes?
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Posted 28 September 2010 - 05:27 PM
I don't think all the cultures in the world could have just imagined something like dragons not without something that all the cultures could have see. something like a meteor shower could explain dragons there ability to fly seeing lights across the sky, and a dragons ability to breath fire a ball or fire comes out of the sky and destroys a neighboring kingdom. It sounds lot like dragons to me 
. I personally love dragons and would love to see how this thread could figure out how all the other legends came together.
. I personally love dragons and would love to see how this thread could figure out how all the other legends came together.
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:44 PM
I don't know where you people are getting this "zero contact" idea from, since sea travel has been documented for over 5,000 years and has probably existed for much longer. These legends probably spread through travelers and traders sharing cultures, telling stories, or by plain ripping others off. There is also the possibility of coincidence. Just because two separate cultures share a common belief in, say, polytheism or Hell for example, doesn't mean that those cultures had prior contact.
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Posted 09 October 2010 - 05:24 PM
It is the same with religen also, like you said, how can people with 0 contact and no way of contact all of had the same idea!I think it might have something with humanology, like animals have instincts. Humans must have some kind of instinct about certain things.. An example could be something like this... Early humans must have seen some weird animals that we have not found yet, who knows, maybe early man did see 'dragon-like' animals. We just cannot prove this because the bones have never been found.The idea of unicorns could back this up... An adaptation of a horse? Or maybe one time horses had a horn? Or even a weird mutation that is now not part of the genes?
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 05:33 AM
True, the same could be said about pyramids. All over the world civilizations have created pyramids without ever meeting each other. Maybe dragons did live long ago I wouldnt have the slighest clue, but for many civilizations to have the exact same things it to much to be coincidence.GPs were deducted for this post, please read the rules! - KibaAre some legends interconnected?Take the dragons for example, how could civilizations ALL OVER THE WORLD, with no contact to the others, all have the exact same myth?Think about it: Catoblepas, quetzacoatl, eastern dragons, western dragons, dragon-like creatures from india, australia, and north america?same thing with unicorns! what is with this?we need to DEBATE!!!!
Edited by xBigxManx, 14 October 2010 - 05:33 AM.
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:54 AM
I agree with kawaiijapscreenn, especially in that they had contact. The Land Bridge theory proposes that some people from Asia crossed the Bering Strait ~10 000 to 50 000 years ago and settled in North America and are now the First Nations people. Then there was trade between continents (eg: Europe and Asia via the Silk Route).However, I propose that even if they didn't have contact, perhaps different cultures came to their similar beliefs because of fundamental similarities in everyone's way of thinking. I'd also like to propose that even if they do have similarities, there are fundamental differences that make a link impossible.The possibility that a civilization comes up with the concept of an underworld is hardly surprising. One of the most commonly asked, unanswered questions today, and probably back then, is where people go after they die. Mythology has always been a way to explain the unknown. However, just because many different cultures have the idea of the underworld, or an afterlife, doesn't mean they took it from each other, or that they're somehow linked, or that they actually resemble each other in any way, shape or form. The beliefs of the afterworld are diverse - ranging from Heaven and Hell, reincarnation, life as actually death and actual life occurs after death, and so on.And as far as your dragons go, Eastern dragons and Western dragons are portrayed extremely differently. Eastern dragons are benevolent, sometimes mercurial, bringers of luck, rain, floods, pearls and sometimes magical golden batons used for an epic journey. Western dragons are pillagers, hateful fire-breathers that kidnap virgins and eat cows and heros. They're even depicted differently. One has antlers and whiskers and the other is an overgrown lizard with wings. Just because they're both called dragons doesn't mean they are actually the same thing.One last thing about the pyramids, and this is my personal theory. You've been to a beach, right? Thrown sand in a pile. Tried making a sandcastle without actually using a bucket and other tools? I never got beyond making a pile of sand, adding some shells and poking a few holes. Anyone can do this. Dirt, stones, mud, just about any building material can behave like sand. Unless you had the tools to actually shape it, you end up making a pyramid sort of shape. After a bunch of people making a bunch of really big ones, and teaching them to your kids and their kids and so forth, your culture gets good at making pyramids. So you make pyramids and they're enormous pyramids made of limestone and concrete and mud and what have you. Even though you can actually make other things from those materials, it doesn't really occur to anyone that they should. I mean, after all, pyramids are deeply ingrained into the culture and history.I think that some parts of the world are exempt (eg: Europe, Asia, parts of Africa, parts of the Americas) because a) people were nomadic and had no reason to toss dirt together, b) they actually had trees and thatch to build stuff with and/or c) they created bricks or cement, allowing their architecture to develop beyond a pyramid.
Edited by anaiira, 15 October 2010 - 07:55 AM.
