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Posted 12 November 2009 - 05:01 AM

I was wondering what version of R4 to get; I have noticed that there is an R4i and some other versions. Which one is the best?I have the original DS; it is nothing fancy. So I'm not sure if the other versions are just re-releases supporting later DS versions. Anyone care to explain? Thanks in advance.
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Posted 12 December 2009 - 03:03 PM

How can i get The Legend Of Zelda Work On My R4 card?Cuz i can't see the whistle and neither the lever
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 09:18 AM

Well, the guide seems great to me. It solved me a lot of questions... But, I wanna know if R4 still work with DSi... Thank
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 10:47 AM

The original R4 does not work on the DSi, because it has piracy protection, meaning that flashcarts that are made for the DS do not work for the DSi. However, there is an R4 clone called the R4i that works on the DSi.

How can i get The Legend Of Zelda Work On My R4 card?Cuz i can't see the whistle and neither the lever

There's anti-piracy for this game that makes the train controls disappear. You can find a patch on gbatemp.net. I didn't have much time to update the pinned topic that lists games with anti-piracy because I have it really bussy because of my final year, but I'll see when I can update the thread.
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Posted 18 December 2009 - 11:17 AM

I am interested in getting one of these... I have a dsi, so I need the r4i right? And also, I am probably going to put a lot of stuff on it, so I want a 8gb sd card. I was wondering if anyone knew if this was a good site to buy it from? http://www.r4-ds-car...intendo_dsi/r4i

Buy a M3i Zero from www.depot4u.com instead. They are genuine.
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Posted 21 December 2009 - 06:34 AM

How do I go about playing GBA games on the DS?
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Posted 21 December 2009 - 10:14 AM

How do I go about playing GBA games on the DS?

Put the GBA game in the GBA slot then turn on your DS and pick GBA.For ROMS on the other hand you'll need a Slot 2 flashcart or a GBA expansion pack.

Q: How can I play GBA roms with a slot 1 flashcart?A: For most slot 1 flashcarts you can use the Ezflash 3in1 Expansion pack to play GBA roms. If your flashcart isn't the EzFlash brand then you'll need the hombrew program to run it which you can get here. Some other flashcarts like the M3 REAL comes with a GBA pack which you'll need to play GBA roms.


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Posted 05 January 2010 - 08:08 AM

i checked out http://www.depot4u.c...i-nds-ndsl.html for an r4i, doesn't say the price tho, is this place a good deal?

Edited by viperthao, 05 January 2010 - 08:19 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 03:02 AM

i checked out http://www.depot4u.c...i-nds-ndsl.html for an r4i, doesn't say the price tho, is this place a good deal?

I don't recommend getting any flashcart from the R4 franchise at all. They dropped the R4 NDS cart a while back and it is now obsolete. I recommend you get the M3iZero for a great compatibility ratio just as someone stated above, or if eye-candy on your DS UI is more your thing then go for AK2i.M3iZero and AK2i are both usually around $20-$30.

Edited by Reme, 18 January 2010 - 03:04 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 08:39 PM

Can I use the latest kernel from the R4 DS SDHC website for my regualr R4DS Revolution?Or is the new R4 different form the one I got like two years ago or so?
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 05:29 AM

Can I use the latest kernel from the R4 DS SDHC website for my regualr R4DS Revolution?Or is the new R4 different form the one I got like two years ago or so?

Which new one? The last one I heard of was an October '08 release v1.18EDIT*I supose this is what you were talking about http://www.r4sdhc.com/On the bottom of the site there's the download for R4 (v1.32) and also the one for R4i (v2.04) as of the date of this post.

Edited by Reme, 19 January 2010 - 05:31 AM.

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 11:49 AM

Can I use the latest kernel from the R4 DS SDHC website for my regualr R4DS Revolution?Or is the new R4 different form the one I got like two years ago or so?

Only the firmware from the original R4 works with an original R4, this is because the company that made the R4 got a lawsuit and lost, any firmware from a clone is incompatible. If you want to use the latest firmware, try using Ysmenu which allows your R4 to run on TTDS firmware.@RemeThat firmware is made for the SDHC version and therefore it does not work with the original R4
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 11:14 PM

Oh, okay. Thank you guys! (:
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 12:40 AM

Only the firmware from the original R4 works with an original R4, this is because the company that made the R4 got a lawsuit and lost, any firmware from a clone is incompatible. If you want to use the latest firmware, try using Ysmenu which allows your R4 to run on TTDS firmware.@RemeThat firmware is made for the SDHC version and therefore it does not work with the original R4

I see, good to know since I might borrow a friend's original R4.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 10:10 PM

So i bought a DS, and i'm using R4 Christmas version with the red themethere are games that can't be played,one game that i really want to play is new super mario bros,after the nintendo logo, it is said that the saved data corrupted but i haven't even played it yet,and then after it is erased the screen that says corrupted goes over again, again, again ... and again .... tiredwhen i'm using my friend's flashcard M3, new super mario bros works just finecan anyone help me ? (rather than buying another flashcard)thanks
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 11:42 PM

So i bought a DS, and i'm using R4 Christmas version with the red themethere are games that can't be played,one game that i really want to play is new super mario bros,after the nintendo logo, it is said that the saved data corrupted but i haven't even played it yet,and then after it is erased the screen that says corrupted goes over again, again, again ... and again .... tiredwhen i'm using my friend's flashcard M3, new super mario bros works just finecan anyone help me ? (rather than buying another flashcard)thanks

You should honestly just buy another flashcart. The R4 ROM compatibility is horrible and R4 is no longer supported because of a DMCA.Try this compatibility list to see how to fix your problem: http://www.romulatio...hp?topic=1281.0
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 07:20 PM

I'm THIS close to buying one of these but a few questions...1. The R4 is like having a bunch of real DS games on one cart, right? 2. Will the glitches in games that I have seen on No$GBA and DeSEmu be present when I play a rom with the R4?
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 07:46 PM

1) Yes it is like that. You just transfer your games onto your R4 or whatever you're using.2) Well, that depends on how good the flash cart is. Some flashcarts will play games better than others. To be honest, I don't know much about R4's capability but maybe the guy's post above yours might give an indication. Otherwise, you can check this link out to learn about the different types of flash carts available:http://www.dgemu.com...howtopic=182458I hope that helps. I'm not an expert by the way so maybe you might still want to wait for another guy's response but I think this is it in a nutshell. :(
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 07:49 PM

Well it shouldn't have the glitches of an emulator on the PC as it is a DS that just gets a ROM from a different place than its normal cartridge.I don't know but I think it will work.

You should honestly just buy another flashcart. The R4 ROM compatibility is horrible and R4 is no longer supported because of a DMCA.Try this compatibility list to see how to fix your problem: <a href="http://www.dgemu.com/forums/index.php?autocom=out&go=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romulation.net%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D1281.0" target="_blank">http://www.romulation.net/forum/index.php?topic=1281.0</a>

Oh then I have no clue.Sorry,
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 07:56 PM

Wait is DS Xtreme better than an R4 for the NDS Lite?
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 01:27 PM

Regarding the usage of an R4, most glitches of no$gba desmume won't be present because emulators aren't perfect yet. I'm using an R4 myself and the only glitches I've found myself so far are usual in-game glitches. It is true however that the compatability of an R4 is extremely bad this is because the company that made the R4 got sued by nintendo and isn't allowed to sell any R4 or to make new firmware. However, you can either patch the roms you use or you can use Ysmenu to run DSTT firmware on your R4 to run more roms on your R4. If you do that you don't even have to spend money on a new flashcart.One of the best sites for patches is http://www.gbatemp.netThey also have some other stuff like instructions on how to use Ysmenu and a cheat database
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:04 AM

I'm THIS close to buying one of these but a few questions...1. The R4 is like having a bunch of real DS games on one cart, right? 2. Will the glitches in games that I have seen on No$GBA and DeSEmu be present when I play a rom with the R4?

Might seem like a wall of text but bear with me :]1) In a nutshell, yes. You download .nds files unto your microSD card which you then insert into the flashcart of your choice. The amount of games you can have in there at a time completely depends on the size of your microSD card. A 1GB card will most likely hold about 10-20 games depending on their size (ranges from 32MB~200MB that I've seen). There's SD cards out there that go all the way up to 8GB and 16GB. 32GB ones aren't really supported by many, to be on the safe side, go for 8GB maximum. Another thing to consider is the class type of the microSD card. Which I'll explain in 2)2) No. These glitches are generated by the emulator itself and will run completely different depending on which flashcart you use. The flashcart with the best ROM compatibility to date is the CycloDS made by team cyclops; I've yet to see a game have any problems with that cart. It's quite pricey (ranging from $35-$50) and second to that one I'd say Acekard 2. I personally bought the AK2 because it's incredibly cheaper ($10-$15) and has a pretty cool UI. AK2 also has a great ROM compatibility and has little to no ROM problems (because of the anti-piracy crap but AP is present in almost every flashcart including CycloDS).Another thing to consider about glitches with flashcarts is the running speed. MicroSD cards are categorized in 3 class types: Class 2, class 4, and class 6. Each of them have a writing/reading speed. 2 being the slowest and 6 the fastest. The differences are hardly noticeable but they become obvious when playing certain ROMS.As a closing comment, I strongly and I cannot stress this enough, strongly suggest you step away from the R4 flashcarts as most of them are either fakes or clones. Not to mention the official team no longer supports it any longer.If you want zero problems with homebrew/ROMs on your DS go for Cyclo DS. If budget is a factor for you, go for the Acekard 2. Also, if you own a DSi, M3i Zero ($39-$50) is probably your best bet in terms of great compatibility and Acekard2i ($25-$35) for again, budget restrains.

Wait is DS Xtreme better than an R4 for the NDS Lite?

You be the judge: http://gbatemp.net/i...showtopic=38174 In my personal experience/opinion, both of them are terrible. Stick with the Cyclo or AK2.Here are some reviews for the mentioned carts:CycloDS GBATemp ReviewAcekard 2 GBATemp ReviewAcekard2i (for DSi) GBATemp ReviewM3i Zero (for DSi) GBATemp ReviewAcekard 2i, M3i Zero, CycloDS Comparison Review from GBATempR4 DS GBATemp ReviewI hope this helps.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:14 AM

Thanks, both of you! And I read the whole thing, reme! =D$10-$15 for 100% compat and 100% reliability??? Hell yeah, count me in! But wait there's gotta be some catch or SOMETHING, right? I have to buy my own SD card? Buy my own cables? Voids my warranty? Only available in Asia?
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 05:56 AM

Thanks, both of you! And I read the whole thing, reme! =D$10-$15 for 100% compat and 100% reliability??? Hell yeah, count me in! But wait there's gotta be some catch or SOMETHING, right? I have to buy my own SD card? Buy my own cables? Voids my warranty? Only available in Asia?

Yep. You need to purchase your own SD card.Some AK2's dont even come with a reader anymore, others do. This is where I purchased my ak2: (about a 2 week delivery, came with a metalic stylus and a reader included (+$1))http://www.0shipping...kard-p-285.htmlAnd I suggest this 8 gig memory card: (4 days delivery and also class 6)http://www.newegg.co...1-341-_-ProductThat's the only real catch.And as for firmware, go for AKAIO 1.5.1 (latest when this was posted) as it supports more ROMs than the actual offical AK2 firmware. AKAIO is run by a separate team than the official one and does a better job at it.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 06:56 AM

Ok, thanks. Does that site take PayPal? I'm definitely not giving my credit card number to a chinese hacker site :) And is there 1-2GB class 6 cards? I'm the kind of person who sticks to a few select games and then moves on to the next batch, so I won't need THAT many games on one card.

Edited by ps2stony, 31 January 2010 - 07:09 AM.

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