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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:28 PM

it depends on the language uf ur r4. if ur r4 is chinese and u try to put an english firmware then it won't work and vice versa.

I didn't think about that, it could be why he's getting an error in Chinese. But, English firmware will work on Chinese units, there shouldn't be any problem there.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:42 PM

Also, I don't see dealextreme on the R4 website as a trusted website to buy things from.http://www.r4ds.com/world-en.htm

they are not a official seller, they buy them whole sale in bulk, but i know from other forums that they can be trusted, i myself have purchased 6 R4's from them 2 of them were defective, after they received my returned package they reimbursed me for the return shipping directly into my paypal account based on the amount on the package, so they are one of the best deals out there.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 08:14 PM

You'll need a micro SD card, and a Micro SD reader to put roms onto your card, the amount of roms you can fit onto one depends on the size of your Micro SD and the roms your gonna put onto them

Thanks for the help! Now, I found the Micro SD Card but I don't know if it has a reader. Can someone help me? This is the one I'm planning on buying: Sandisk Mini-SD 1.0GBThanks in advance.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 08:59 PM

I didn't think about that, it could be why he's getting an error in Chinese. But, English firmware will work on Chinese units, there shouldn't be any problem there.

the r4's in chinese (from Honk Kong-from some shop called 'twin star'), it's the real one with no "2gb" sticker on the front and the inside box is the white box with r4 written on on and the box is the same as the DS lite in length and around 3/4 of the DS lite in width. Is there a way to change the firmware into english? because i've tried with the english version(v.1.07 and v.1.08) on this from the r4 website and it doesn't work
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 09:09 PM

Thanks for the help! Now, I found the Micro SD Card but I don't know if it has a reader. Can someone help me? This is the one I'm planning on buying: Sandisk Mini-SD 1.0GBThanks in advance.

The R4 kit comes with a USB drive, you put the microsd in the USB stick and attach it to your computer. The microSD comes with an SD converter, so you can put the microsd card in it and it acts like a normal SD card. You only have to buy two things, the R4 and a microsd card, those two things give you everything you need.

the r4's in chinese (from Honk Kong-from some shop called 'twin star'), it's the real one with no "2gb" sticker on the front and the inside box is the white box with r4 written on on and the box is the same as the DS lite in length and around 3/4 of the DS lite in width. Is there a way to change the firmware into english? because i've tried with the english version(v.1.07 and v.1.08) on this from the r4 website and it doesn't work

I already explained what you need to do and I'm not sure why it's not working. Tell me the names of all the files and folders in the root folder of your microsd card.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 10:07 PM

I already explained what you need to do and I'm not sure why it's not working. Tell me the names of all the files and folders in the root folder of your microsd card.

there's _DS_MENU (SYSTEM FILE) , _system_(folder) , moonshl(folder), _DS_MENU(.DAT FILE), _DS_MSHL.nds(NDS FILE). I've updated the r4 to v.1.08 (chinese version) with no problems, it's just i don't think this can change into an english version.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 10:17 PM

there's _DS_MENU (SYSTEM FILE) , _system_(folder) , moonshl(folder), _DS_MENU(.DAT FILE), _DS_MSHL.nds(NDS FILE). I've updated the r4 to v.1.08 (chinese version) with no problems, it's just i don't think this can change into an english version.

And you've formatted the card and loaded all of the english files onto it? If so, they might have changed the card so it won't load the English firmware if it's a Chinese card.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 11:40 PM

And you've formatted the card and loaded all of the english files onto it? If so, they might have changed the card so it won't load the English firmware if it's a Chinese card.

it's been formatted into FAT32 and i've tried loading the english firmware on to it but it still doesn't want to work. The r4 thing is chinese and the micro SD is from kingston. i'm gonna just leave it now, but can you post what does what in english somewhere on the board so i know what says what like the cheat section, the multimedia section, etc.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 02:11 AM

it's been formatted into FAT32 and i've tried loading the english firmware on to it but it still doesn't want to work. The r4 thing is chinese and the micro SD is from kingston. i'm gonna just leave it now, but can you post what does what in english somewhere on the board so i know what says what like the cheat section, the multimedia section, etc.

When you go to Multimedia it brings you to moonshell. Try replacing moonshell with the English version, see if that works so you at least have moonshell in English. Then replace the cheat file with the English version. When you highlight a game, all it says is to hit Y for cheats, then it brings up a list of cheats for the game you hit Y on.Edit: Also, I just found out that you cannot use English firmware on a Chinese card. Still, try replacing moonshell and the cheat file to see if it'll let you replace those instead.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 04:33 AM

it's been formatted into FAT32 and i've tried loading the english firmware on to it but it still doesn't want to work. The r4 thing is chinese and the micro SD is from kingston. i'm gonna just leave it now, but can you post what does what in english somewhere on the board so i know what says what like the cheat section, the multimedia section, etc.

You cannot use the english firmware on a chinese R4, there is a lock built into the chip itself that is why it is cheaper, you will need to open up your R4 and bridge the connector by soldering the language chip.(melt them together), but you need to know what one to melt, and it has been tested by many people.Posted ImageNote: This is only for the First and Second Batch of the R4, it does not work on the Third Batch of R4, and the R4 to M3 simply mod is only for the first batch.and it seems that some people have been able to use a penceil and get it down.anyways here is where i got this info from.http://gbatemp.net/i...topic=48892&hl=
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 06:56 PM

You cannot use the english firmware on a chinese R4, there is a lock built into the chip itself that is why it is cheaper, you will need to open up your R4 and bridge the connector by soldering the language chip.(melt them together), but you need to know what one to melt, and it has been tested by many people.Posted ImageNote: This is only for the First and Second Batch of the R4, it does not work on the Third Batch of R4, and the R4 to M3 simply mod is only for the first batch.and it seems that some people have been able to use a penceil and get it down.anyways here is where i got this info from.http://gbatemp.net/i...topic=48892&hl=

ohhhhhhh...so that's why :shifty: nevermind then, i can play games and that's all that matters :D thanks
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:15 PM

How long would it take for my R4 to be delivered from Hong Kong to Massachusetts, USA? Its been five days now, I'm just too excited..
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:52 PM

How long would it take for my R4 to be delivered from Hong Kong to Massachusetts, USA? Its been five days now, I'm just too excited..

where did you order it from? and what shipping method did you use, it depends on the carrier of the package i know that dealextreme free shipping takes about 2 weeks to get to calif from hong kong, but i have also paid for the fast shipping and it got to me in 5 days.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:58 PM

where did you order it from? and what shipping method did you use, it depends on the carrier of the package i know that dealextreme free shipping takes about 2 weeks to get to calif from hong kong, but i have also paid for the fast shipping and it got to me in 5 days.

I ordered it from dealextreme with free shipping..Wow 2 weeks from Hong Kong to California? So its gonna take like 3-4 weeks to get to Massachusetts probably..T____T I should've paid for fast shipping..
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 10:11 PM

OK, I'm a little confused here...How can a slot-1 cart can allow playing GBA game? I ask because I was hesitating between a slot-1 and a slot-2 solution and playing GBA games is a important factor for my choice. I prefer the slot-1 because it's easier so if you're telling me that it's possible to play GBA games, I'll go with that.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:38 PM

Actually, those are trojans, not viruses, but the point still stands.Also, badly written software by well-meaning developers can also damage your firmware.

So is the software that you are talking about only software meant to flash the DS's firmware or does every app have the risk of bricking a DS?Also, can this be checked with an emulator before putting on the DS?

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Posted 02 May 2007 - 02:14 AM

I ordered it from dealextreme with free shipping..Wow 2 weeks from Hong Kong to California? So its gonna take like 3-4 weeks to get to Massachusetts probably..T____T I should've paid for fast shipping..

well actually mass is closer to hong kong then california, it might take only 2 weeks since thats the regular time, i know of some people who have gotten it within 7 days so you might get lucky.

OK, I'm a little confused here...How can a slot-1 cart can allow playing GBA game? I ask because I was hesitating between a slot-1 and a slot-2 solution and playing GBA games is a important factor for my choice. I prefer the slot-1 because it's easier so if you're telling me that it's possible to play GBA games, I'll go with that.

it does not, most slot 2 flash carts have ram in them to play gba games, the ds slot 1 does not, so as of right now no slot 1 flash cart can play gba games, you will need to get a slot 2 flash cart to play gba roms, the R4 has a slot 2 loader button on the far right when you turn it on.

So is the software that you are talking about only software meant to flash the DS's firmware or does every app have the risk of bricking a DS?Also, can this be checked with an emulator before putting on the DS?

yes you can run many homebrew on emulators before you try, but you should just go to trusted sites that have homebrew information like devscene, instead of downloading off any strange website.
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Posted 02 May 2007 - 02:15 AM

OK, I'm a little confused here...How can a slot-1 cart can allow playing GBA game? I ask because I was hesitating between a slot-1 and a slot-2 solution and playing GBA games is a important factor for my choice. I prefer the slot-1 because it's easier so if you're telling me that it's possible to play GBA games, I'll go with that.

at this point in time slot1 flashcarts CANT play GBA roms. there may be a point in the future when someone makes a GBA Emu for slot1 DS flashcarts, but currenl there is none.@gamegeek2: any software has the potential to brick ur DS. this also includes official game carts, but extremely rarely. just make sure u dont run any software from a untrustworthy source like torrents and you should be fine
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Posted 02 May 2007 - 02:51 AM

[quote name='dbgtdob' date='May 2 2007, 02:14 AM' post='2472206']well actually mass is closer to hong kong then california, it might take only 2 weeks since thats the regular time, i know of some people who have gotten it within 7 days so you might get lucky.Is mass really closer? On my mini globe, Cali looks a few hundred miles closer than Mass from Hong Kong.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 01:54 PM

I'd like to know if anybody here is interested in helping me make a new R4 Forum. I am trying to make it look similar to the M3 Forum one, except I want to have more volunteering people to share their homebrews and tools on this site, too. It's also the home of my R4 Review! Well, right now it's still in it's beta stages, so if anybody would like to help(as in being a mod or just an active member), head on over to:-link removed-And PM me. If you're too lazy to(although I don't want any lazy mods), feel free to pm me here, or write me an email:royalkingboo@yahoo.comThanks! NARUTO777 (_ARTIFACT) POINTS were deducted for this post by Porumy
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 02:10 AM

Oomg. MY R4 CAME TODAY! XD :P :) :smile1: :P :D WOOHOOOO. And to think its only been 13 days since I ordered it! WOW! Such quick shipment for a free delivery option!
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:35 AM

Okay, I already read the guide for the R4, but it just said copy all the files to the miniSD and I want to know if I have to name a folder GAME, ROM, ROMS etc.Or if I can place it anywhere in the root.thanks.If someone knows, PM me as I will never be able to find my post after this.I have 56k dial up T_Talso, does this sound right as the contents of my micro SD:moonshl_system_Contents:roms folderebooks folderthemes folderbckgrd_1.bmpbckgrd_2.bmplogo.bmpgbaframe.bmpicons.bmpI simply copied the contents of the 1.08 firmware and the roms I have... I don't think I am doing this right and the first post left me quite confused.

yes you can put the roms on a folder, sort roms by genre, for example they make a folder for rpg's, shooters etc........, and what you need on the card is the system folder, the moonshell folder, and the two other files in that kernel.although i dont have a spare copy of the new cheats, you will need to update your cheat.dat if you want the latest games but the R4 server is down.

So I should have moonshl, _system_ which I got with the 1.08 kernal and cheat.dat?The only stuff I put on my card was what came in the 1.08 kernal and my roms.
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Posted 19 May 2007 - 12:51 AM

Looks like they found us out!Some games don't work on the R4 anymore, does anyone think an update can fix this or is it a lost cause?
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Posted 19 May 2007 - 01:17 AM

Looks like they found us out!Some games don't work on the R4 anymore, does anyone think an update can fix this or is it a lost cause?

What games? I've tried a few newly released games and my R4 is still at 100% for compatibility.
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Posted 19 May 2007 - 03:19 AM

What games? I've tried a few newly released games and my R4 is still at 100% for compatibility.

Code Lyoko and Madden 07, I think there are 3 so far.
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