Evolution can be proven easily. Look at the bacteria that cause diseases. Our doctors prescribed too many antibiotics for many different diseases, causing their DNA to change and counteract the antibiotic that is used to treat the disease, thus creating "super bugs". These new diseases can defy the effects of current antibiotics until scientists can come up with a brand new disease to counteract with that bacteria.Evolution exists all around us whether we want to believe it or not. Without it, there would be no life on Earth.
Who the hell would believe in evolution???
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Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:00 AM
no you shouldnt find lots of fossils most bodies are eaten by other animals or decompose also there isnt evidence against evolution if your refering to what michael behe does you should know hes a chemist not a biologist and he is a bad one at that he doesnt even know how to properly use scientific notationscientist use the term theory to mean a statement that is heavily backed up by evidence you are using it as they use the word hypothesis and by the way lots of people have seen evolution try reading the beak of the finch it has many examples
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:43 PM
I don't understand why it's so hard to reconcile evolution and the existence of a God. As one of my teachers has saidPerhaps God created the world, and then let it evolve?Now, I'm not saying this merely to appease both sides, because that strategy never works. But it is a possibility that should be considered.Edit: I'm an evolutionist currently, and have not yet 'joined' a religion.
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 04:46 PM
i believe in evolution....god create the world as it is..but the world keeps changing...so in order so tat v can live...God let us evolve as well...change along with the world or die out>.<p/s: i do not believe in human evolution tough=/ but other living creature...yesI don't understand why it's so hard to reconcile evolution and the existence of a God. As one of my teachers has saidPerhaps God created the world, and then let it evolve?Now, I'm not saying this merely to appease both sides, because that strategy never works. But it is a possibility that should be considered.Edit: I'm an evolutionist currently, and have not yet 'joined' a religion.
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 06:11 PM
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Posted 09 February 2008 - 01:17 AM
How can chance make soemthign as complez as the brain? Even now we do not much about the brain. With the tool and techonology we have.I think that the whole "boom" theory and evolution... well....I can see God creating evolution but not just randomly happening
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^Evolution doesn't just happen randomly. It happens when the living organism has no need for a part of the body or when a living organism cannot survive longe enough in it's environment without adjusting.
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Posted 10 February 2008 - 09:37 AM
Well actually, evolution does just happen randomly. Evolution induces change through mutation, which occurs randomly with random effects. It also occurs constantly. Organisms are constantly changing, however unless that change has a bearing on their fitness (ability to survive and produce offspring) than it will not be acted upon by natural selection. That's not to say there is no purpose behind any of it. The purpose is to increase an organism's fitness, if something doesn't do that it is lost by the organism(s) with it dying off, if it does than it persists in the population and continues to be modified through mutation to see if it can be made better, but Nature is a crummy engineer and only ever makes things "good enough." Please note: this statement should in no way be interpreted as supporting Creation over Evolution.^Evolution doesn't just happen randomly. It happens when the living organism has no need for a part of the body or when a living organism cannot survive longe enough in it's environment without adjusting.
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 11:04 PM
Given the fact that products of evolution are the result of billions of years of nature's work it seems to be a plausible theory for how most organisms have come to possess their current traits. However, I do not believe creationism/intelligent design and evolution/natural selection can truly be compared as theorys due to the nature of their proofs and how they are accepted. Evolution relies on scientific evidence derivied from countless observations of things such as the fossil record, observations of changes in populations since Darwin, and the products of artificial selection also known as the breeding/domestication of animals and plants to name a few. Creationism, however, is based in faith and religious theory. Also the ambiguities of recorded religion make it an unreliable source for scientific consideration. Thus from a scientific standpoint Creationism is utterly rediculous, however, from a religious standpoint Evolution is equally unbelieveable.
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 11:11 PM
no such thing as evoulutionPOINTS were deducted for this post by DownShiftPlease refer to the forum rules to find out why your points were deducted.
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It interessting really interesting.Its greatJuvenilleAnd spigotIf I'm interpreting your statement correctly, then I think I know how to argue against it. You make the point that, with the millions upon millions of species in the world, there should be significantly more fossils to show evolutionary progress, if they did indeed evolve over time. Okay, that seems to make sense. So what do I think is wrong with this arguement? Allow me to explain:The most important reason for the sparse nature of the fossil record is that fossils are extraordinarily rare, and many fossils are destroyed by erosion or other natural processes long before anyone even knows about them. Not only that, but a more or less precise set of circumstances are needed for a fossil to form in the first place, which is why most fossils are of sea creatures, which are more easily buried under sediment and possibly preserved.Also, what happens if the presence of fossils is approached in a different manner? Rather than using the fossil record to support the theory of evolution, how does one explain the presence of fossils, which take quite a long time to form?By the way, there is not really any such thing as believing in evolution. Belief implies that one determines an idea to be reality or truth, based on faith. As a theory, evolution is not some church of biology that scientists came up with and desperately seek evidence for so as to usurp creationist beliefs. It is merely a means of explaining why life is the way it is, without involving supernatural or unverifiable phenomena in the explanation. Some people accept evolution and concern themselves with supporting it, just like any other scientific procedure. Evolution is not a challenge against creationism, science and faith are too far distant for them to interact.Please continue, I am very interested in what else you have to say.
I belive in evoloution i like it!All I'm saying is that although there is what evolutionists (in general, mind you) would like to present as substantial evidence in support of evolution, there is also an even greater amount of evidence (though oftenly suppressed or ignored) which has arisen from or been taken as a sample from those same evolutionist's findings!! Ex) the "fossil" record? evolutionists would present that from the fossil record can be found many examples of creatures "evolving" into some state we witness today. However, if a person were to use common sense, taking into account that on the basis of the evolutionists' statements every creature here today is evolved from some previous form, shouldn't we be able to find MILLIONS of such examples, and not just the few we see today???? Just one example of many. Topic open to opinions...Topic discussions include the origin of man, the theory of evolution, the origins of life, the origins of the universe, and creation theory.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 03:56 AM
Seriously, evolution is not a myth you stubborn *sses! Seriously, how else could man evovlve? Also, I am a Christian, so don't be pulling the atheist card on me because I believe that god could plan out or put hand in evolution, the seven days is just a metaphor for man and how he realized good/evil (civilization).
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 05:18 AM
What is evolution? It is the change in the frequency of genetic alleles over a give time. Where does such a change happen, it is proven via math to happen in a population not in Hardy-Weinberg Equilibrium. What populations are not in said state, all finite populations (one requirement is an infinitely big population). Conclusion, evolution happens.As for the how we came to be, that is a matter up for debate even between evolution (there are multiple types, such as Darwin and Gap(I think that is the name for it)).Given time, evolution happens, we don't need a fossil record to show this. The question really is is how much time has evolution been given enough?
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Posted 21 February 2008 - 12:48 AM
I believe in evolution totally.there is alot more evidence towards evolution than some religious way of begining the world. Sorry if I've put down religious people's beliefs but this thread totally bashes mine...
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Posted 21 February 2008 - 05:06 AM
i do not belive that god created us and i dont think we evolved from the monkeyPOINTS were deducted for this post by DownShiftPlease refer to the forum rules to find out why your points were deducted.
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 07:06 PM
i hate the theory of evolution the fact that it is a theory means it is subject 2 change
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 09:40 PM
All of science is subject to change. That is not a bad thing because the change won't happen randomly; we change the theory when we find new evidence. Right now, evolution explains what we observe well, so we should keep learning about it.
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evolution is BS and if you believe it its just cuz you settle for the Easy Dumb awnser!!!!POINTS were deducted for this post by DownShiftPlease refer to the forum rules to find out why your points were deducted.
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 03:42 PM
But believing a book that is used for propaganda and describes things that happened more then 4000 years ago without letting anyone argue with it isn't?evolution is BS and if you believe it its just cuz you settle for the Easy Dumb awnser!!!!
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 06:57 PM
i'm christian and i believe in creation but i also believe in evolution. i think that animals and humans were created and put on earth and from there they evolved. we have proof in evolution by our actions. like dog breeding.
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So you think the bible is right?In seven days there was the world?And Adam and Eva were the first humans?i'm christian and i believe in creation but i also believe in evolution. i think that animals and humans were created and put on earth and from there they evolved. we have proof in evolution by our actions. like dog breeding.
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 09:32 PM
I don't like the title of this debate. It's immediately biased and the intention is clear--it's designed to piss off the people who believe in it, so they'll come in here and start a heated debate.
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Posted 24 February 2008 - 10:19 PM
People get confused over evolution, people call it a fact, others a theory. It's technically both.For the most part, evolution is a fact. It occurs whether or not you "believe" in it. The evolution as in we've evolved from single-celled organisms which were the first forms of life on Earth. The theory in evolution is how exactly it works. The claim to teach "Intelligent Design" in school is backed by no scientific evidence at all.
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 04:59 AM
To be fair, there's never been any contradicting evidence against evolution. All it would take would be a modern animal to be found in an ancient part of the fossil record to debunk all modern theories of evolution -- it's never happened.
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:31 PM
i believe in evolution because i always thought that man came from chimpanzees.
