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[cgfreak]

There is a big problem with evolution. It practically believes everything comes from rocks.

Everything in the universe, including every single proton in your body, is simply the protons that were formed when the universe was less than one second old. What is so unbelievable about everything coming from rocks if those rocks themselves have come from "nothing"?

[skulhedface]

The "if evolution were real, wouldn't I grow wings" argument is a slippery slope argument, and a rather poorly done one as well. Religion may exist, or it may not. Humanity hasn't reached a capacity to prove it one way or another (the God thread being multiple pages long here and probably many terabytes elsewhere on the web) but evolution has scientific basis in fact. While evolution doesn't preclude religion (I find no reason why faith can't coexist with science, unless you take your Bible literal flavor), in most "choose one" sides, evolution wins by virtue of provability alone. It bothers me to no end that creationists deny evolution when the medical field sees it in action every day, an extreme example being 'superbugs'.If you're not familiar with the concept, picture this: A man goes into the hospital for the flu. He is given antibiotic treatment, and recovers. The bacteria susceptible to antibiotics has been killed off. Meanwhile, you've left bacteria who are resistant to antibiotics, who will then pass on this ability in dazzling quickness. Multiple generations of some bacteria can form within hours, breeding a whole new flu that laughs off your antibiotics.Or, in short, evolution in action. Scientifically proven.Getting back to the original point, the 'wings' argument is spurious at best. Nature in evolution serves as a facilitator. Birds fly because their prey is easier to catch that way, and if ever there were flightless, wingless birds (not counting say, penguins, because their own evolutionary adaption is survival in subzero environments), they've probably gone extinct. Live or die. Those who didn't adapt succumb to the latter. Or, what purpose does having wings serve to humans? We don't need to fly to eat, unless you want an easier way to get to Burger King. While flying might make it easier to get to work by zooming over traffic, this is a culture thing, not a survival thing, and is at best irrelevant. There's no evolutionary basis to it.One could just as easily say, "If religion were real, wouldn't God give me wings to fly to church easier?" Ridiculous. It may sound dumb, but on the other hand, isn't growing wings just because evolution exists just as dumb? Be realistic. Haha, it's why tigers don't grow wings. Why would they? Evolution already served them in a MUCH LESS ridiculous way. By making them RUN fast enough to catch something to eat. Again, it's like saying "Why doesn't God give you wings to fly to church?" You already have a way there. Bike, car, train, walking...Human lifespan does nothing to discredit evolution. See my superbug example. While multicellular lifeforms are much more complex and therefore take much longer to evolve, a simple bacterium can be a great great great great great great grandfather in less than a week. With a short generational gap like this, it's incredibly easy to see evolution happen.

Edited by skulhedface, 16 October 2008 - 05:13 PM.