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Who the hell would believe in evolution???
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:22 AM
The theory of evolution is what it is, a theory. But a theory is based on vast amounts of evidence and testing. So scientists pretty much take it as fact. There is a lot of evidence that makes evolution believable, for example, as mentioned earlier, the fossil record. Someone mentioned this earlier, but the fossil record has evidence of species that lived before us and show us that there are some morphological similarities between organisms that have lived and organisms that are alive today. And although, due to the difficulty and the time it takes to create a fossil, it is incomplete, the fact that we have this record should be some indication that organisms today might have come from organisms in the past. Also genomes of complex organisms, like humans, are sometimes only a few sequences different from other organisms, such as apes or mice. This also serves as evidence because phenotype is based on genotype. And our DNA does not get passed on exactly the same, as seen in biological processes such as meiosis. So I think evolution is believable. The earth has been around long enough to make it possible for this to happen. I think that people probably get the wrong idea from evolution because of science fiction novels and TV shows that don't portray this in the fullest way. People get the sense that evolution is something that happens overnight. We should keep in mind that it is a process that happens over a large amount of time. Rome wasn't built in a day, so how can an entire species be?
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Posted 31 August 2011 - 09:38 AM
I get how people could believe in evolution, but that's if you look at the past. Sure, many animals have similarities between each other; that's because of adaptation. But now if we say evolution is real, why does it stop at humans?Humans adapt, we don't evolve like Pokemon.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 07:23 AM
I am a firm believer in God, a Christian. But, the actual theory of evolution is unrealistic and impossible. Things do evolve such as, animals and such. But we didn't evolve from fish or chimpanzees. Many animals are far to specialized to happen by accident. A good example of this is a woodpecker. It would choke on it's enormous tongue or hit the wood and decimate it's brains, but someone designed that bird to have a cushion to absorb the impact of the blows and to have a cavity in front of it's brain to store it's tongue. Therefore; something or someone must have designed it. That someone is God. So, believing otherwise and saying evolution makes senses because of logic and science is foolhardy and, no offense, ignorant.
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 06:11 AM
If you assume that there is a designer, do you also assume that the design is ideal? I would think that that would follow directly from a designer god of some sort, but that's clearly not what we can observe in the real world. For example, the recurrent laryngeal nerve or the human retina, both have some pretty obvious functional flaws.Aside from that, are you claiming that all extant and extinct species are created as is? If that's the case the Earth wouldn't even have room for a stable population of everything that ever existed, the dinosaurs by themselves have enough different species with enough territory requirements to crowd out themselves and everything else. There's also the genetic evidence for evolution, vast areas of the genome for any given species doesn't actually code for anything, but you can still track how closely related two species might be by looking at those sections of DNA. This is especially the case if you consider mitochondrial DNA, which should have no functional difference at all, since ATP generation works at the cellular level, but DNA states otherwise. The mitochondrial DNA of different primate species is much closer to each other than that of say, some random plant vs a given primate.I am a firm believer in God, a Christian. But, the actual theory of evolution is unrealistic and impossible. Things do evolve such as, animals and such. But we didn't evolve from fish or chimpanzees. Many animals are far to specialized to happen by accident. A good example of this is a woodpecker. It would choke on it's enormous tongue or hit the wood and decimate it's brains, but someone designed that bird to have a cushion to absorb the impact of the blows and to have a cavity in front of it's brain to store it's tongue. Therefore; something or someone must have designed it. That someone is God. So, believing otherwise and saying evolution makes senses because of logic and science is foolhardy and, no offense, ignorant.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 03:55 AM
i'm a christian yet i do believe in evolution more than the Bible. i wonder if people even read the thing any ways
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:31 PM
Not believing in evolution is like saying that you dont believe that knowledge is passed generation to generation. Like knowledge, evoluion allows species to grow and better themselfs so they are more apt to their eviroments and to keep from species from repeating the same mistakes over and over. Just think back 100 years ago, if we didnt change through just that time frame where would we be today. Take that perspective to 1,000,000 years where would we be then. Change is absolute neccessary and it exist, Im a Christian, so it is no riligioug sin to believe in a intelligent design of some sorts. One truth though is that evolution exist, mabey not on a skale we think its on,but it does indeed exist.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 03:40 PM
Evolution, in the sense that over time, a species of finch can diverge into two species, I can accept. However, we must bear in mind that at the end of the day, two species or one, they're both still birds, and the changes that happened were variations of the existing genetic material. However, to move from a bird to a completely different animal would require the addition of DNA, which cannot occur.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 02:26 AM
Scientifically speaking i sont think evolution is possible based on the fact that if it took over a million years for our brains to fully develop into what it is today we wouldn't be able to withstand anything over 1g of forceScientifically speaking i dont think evolution is possible based on the fact that if it took over a million years for our brains to fully develop into what it is today we wouldn't be able to withstand anything over 1g of force
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 05:13 PM
What do you mean by "addition of DNA"? If you mean that different species have different raw amounts of genetic material (46 chromosomes for humans for example), then it's pretty obvious that that can change.Evolution, in the sense that over time, a species of finch can diverge into two species, I can accept. However, we must bear in mind that at the end of the day, two species or one, they're both still birds, and the changes that happened were variations of the existing genetic material. However, to move from a bird to a completely different animal would require the addition of DNA, which cannot occur.
How do you figure that? Obviously human brains can stand over 1g of force, and obviously creatures with smaller brains can as well. Where along the line would a creature come along whose brain would somehow collapse under the Earth's gravity?Scientifically speaking i sont think evolution is possible based on the fact that if it took over a million years for our brains to fully develop into what it is today we wouldn't be able to withstand anything over 1g of force
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:06 AM
I agree first off all. So you can't bash God, but you can easily bash the theories of evolution...They're men much more intelligent than all of us right now proving evolution is real and exists in our everyday livesexamples: Natural selection, Sexual Reproduction Just because some people can't comprehend such innovative thinking doesn't mean it's not all around us...Science and evolution explains our universe in a nutshell.First, this topic has absolutely nothing to do with God, and, though this is an off-topic discussion forum, it would be great if you could remain on the same subject for the duration of this conversation... This is simply a topic which questions the validity of evolution (a theory which I hold no respect for). If you want to talk about God, go to another forum. If you are interested in evolution, please, don't hold back to post evidence supporting it... Me, I just can't stop finding evidence to refute it. For example, carbon dating, one of the most pivotal tools used in proving evolution (or its length, anyways) has been disproven on many accounts, most memorably when it was used to test lava from Mt. St. Helens and found it to be 100,000 yrs old. Pretty accurate if you ask me...
Another correlating point is that the dating of fossils is based upon sedimentary levels, which are formed by water and dirt over the years. The problem with this is that the number of levels depends upon the amount of water. You could have alot of layers from either what evolutionists believe, little water and lots of time, OR you could have the same number of layers with LOTS of water, maybe from a WORLDWIDE FLOOD??, and little time.
Edited by Hyperblade Zero, 18 April 2012 - 11:15 PM.
