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Posted 05 February 2006 - 11:29 AM

did you know how to play instruments or do math when you were born, no. would you have known how if you were never taught, no. did mankind always know about math and how to play instruments, no. I still can't play an instrument does that mean I'm not human, no.

So, are you saying that humans will never ever learn something new even if they put their time and effort on it unless someone teaches them? How was it possible the Incans, the Egyptians, the Germans, the Chinese and many other civilizations learn to count if no one taught them before? How was it possible for different musical instruments to be invented if no one taught people how to make them? I think that the point of Narugo is that humans are very different from monkeys in the sense that we have technology and arts at our side.

as for the the second part of your responce nothing can suddenly happen over thousands of years thats not sudden it's a very slow process and cells do change though generally it's considered a disease or mutation.

Actually, cells could change suddenly and abruptly. :drool: The simplier the celluar structure, the easier for the cell to change. As proof, look at bacteria. The cells of this life form changes sometimes overnight.There are some people who believe that evolution is true. The only difference is that not all life came from one single missing link but a lot of other different species.

so your attemt to argue your point is void.

All points are valid to some extent. We are not here to judge other people's posts by simply saying that that's not true or simply saying "No". Even your points were valid. However, having no side and no opinion on the matter, I think that your post was simply just a response to the previous post which did not add anything new to the topic at hand.With all honesty, chenergy and I have been arguing and arguing only to find out that our arguments support the same thing. Our beliefs are very similar. :P
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Posted 05 February 2006 - 02:56 PM

did u kno that people made an award outta the guy that sad about that theory? its called the darwin awards, and it is awarded to the most retarded people that do stupid stuff, like the guy who robbed a gun store.... search it in the internet it has funny stories
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Posted 05 February 2006 - 03:09 PM

did u kno that people made an award outta the guy that sad about that theory? its called the darwin awards, and it is awarded to the most retarded people that do stupid stuff, like the guy who robbed a gun store.... search it in the internet it has funny stories

And let me clear that up. Yes, they are the Darwin awards, however:

The Darwin Awards salute the improvement of the human genome by honoring thosewho remove themselves from it in really stupid ways.

So there is something about evolution related too.
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Posted 05 February 2006 - 05:55 PM

Why did evolution stop?
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Posted 05 February 2006 - 07:56 PM

i believe in evolution and completely agree with Darwin's theory...well it's more believable than God making people with clays or something...
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Posted 05 February 2006 - 09:06 PM

Why did evolution stop?

Evolution wouldn't stop, but go slow.What would affect evolution is mostly climate changes. This means that humans would start to evolve in a few hundred years because of the greenhouse effect.
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 05:56 PM

Evolution is the single dumbest theroy of creation, it makes no sence. Two little tiny atoms come from no were, hit each other and explode making thousands of plants and suns... I mean even that we came from a dieing alien race makes more sence then that.... I belive in God creating the earth, its the easist to prove.
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 06:20 PM

The theory of evolution does not even try to prove creation. The theory of evolution in a gist states that species change over long periods of time. In other words, creatures that evolved came from creatures of long ago. :ph34r:
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 06:28 PM

Well at some point some evolutionist threoroes suggested that what ever creatures a creature evoled from must started from a non living material or organism, I remeber watching some discovery channel trying to explain haw life on earth began and some say that some kind of rock from space with some living organism and how that started evolution or something like that....amy way thing like this keep me away from believing from evolution theories there are way to many theories that are associated with it and all with some kinda loop hole in it.... well that all folks
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 06:37 PM

You are not alone Gundams. I don't completely believe on the entire evolution theory myself. I only believe part of it. The part that species would adapt to their environment to survive. :ph34r:
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 07:27 PM

I think that both theories can be complementary. I don't actually believe in the Creation, but all this must come from somewhere.Until the Bible is proved true (it is not already, nothing you could say will change this, if it could, nobody would deny it) or the Darwin theories, both can be true.There is no point in arguing about something you cannot prove, so, in the end it's a matter of faith.
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:25 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT ME APES??? i mean come on people....GOD CREATED US!!! well...im a believer of god...

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 10:19 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT ME APES??? i mean come on people....GOD CREATED US!!! well...im a believer of god...

As you say, you BELIEVE, and therefore you cannot deny other people beliefs, even if they believe in evolution.
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 10:35 PM

I think evolution is real i mean we were apes + i like the thought of evolution and can't wait till when it happens to us agen which no doubt i wont be alive then. :rofl2:
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 11:01 PM

Out of the three classifications of rocks, only one can harbour fossils, videlicet: sedimentary...most fossils get melted into igneous or pressurized into metamorphic.Read On the Origin of Species everyone, seriously.
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 11:06 PM

I think that both theories can be complementary. I don't actually believe in the Creation, but all this must come from somewhere.Until the Bible is proved true (it is not already, nothing you could say will change this, if it could, nobody would deny it) or the Darwin theories, both can be true.There is no point in arguing about something you cannot prove, so, in the end it's a matter of faith.

Look i don't believe in god but heres another way that the evolution/creation could be complementary.If god does exist he may have created monkeys/apes/chimps etc etc first and from that point they evolved over all this time into us. Now i know that christians will shoot that theory down saying "in the bible god created man" well ok fair enough but that would have been fairly easy to change if the original people takeing the prophets or whoever was sepeaking gods words down didn't like what they heard so they thought what the hell we'll say god created man that way we'll get more followers, because if they went round trying to convert people saying "hey bro our god created monkeys and we evolved from them" they wouldn't have got very far. Oh and also the whole created in god's image well if he created monkeys and the we evolved he would therefore be a monkey and i doubt the original christians would have liked that very much so they had to change it to people as again"sup our god's a huge monkey, come worship with us and thou shalt be saved" wouldn't have got them very far.But hey that's just a way that both theorys/beliefs could co-exist.
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 07:12 AM

Look i don't believe in god but heres another way that the evolution/creation could be complementary.If god does exist he may have created monkeys/apes/chimps etc etc first and from that point they evolved over all this time into us. Now i know that christians will shoot that theory down saying "in the bible god created man" well ok fair enough but that would have been fairly easy to change if the original people takeing the prophets or whoever was sepeaking gods words down didn't like what they heard so they thought what the hell we'll say god created man that way we'll get more followers, because if they went round trying to convert people saying "hey bro our god created monkeys and we evolved from them" they wouldn't have got very far. Oh and also the whole created in god's image well if he created monkeys and the we evolved he would therefore be a monkey and i doubt the original christians would have liked that very much so they had to change it to people as again"sup our god's a huge monkey, come worship with us and thou shalt be saved" wouldn't have got them very far.But hey that's just a way that both theorys/beliefs could co-exist.

Listen, evolution and creation cannot exist symbiotically. While your theory on the beguiling of the original writers of scripture is interesting, it cannot be further proven because the Church would have conflagrated any substantiating evidence. Why would God create us to evolve when he has the power to create the most successful of the sentient in the Universe in just one stroke?
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 07:26 AM

what do you think happened, poof were here, how can you disprove evolution, its the best thoery we have.
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 07:32 AM

what do you think happened, poof were here, how can you disprove evolution, its the best thoery we have.

I believe evolution is a principle now. If we could go back to life forming on Earth, we could turn it into a law, so it will forever remain a principle. I looked for if it were a theory or principle and my results found nothing really.
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 07:33 AM

Listen, evolution and creation cannot exist symbiotically. While your theory on the beguiling of the original writers of scripture is interesting, it cannot be further proven because the Church would have conflagrated any substantiating evidence. Why would God create us to evolve when he has the power to create the most successful of the sentient in the Universe in just one stroke?

Glad you like it, it's something i've been thinking about for awhile now (not in the monkey context). God may have created us to evolve as he gave us freedom of choice, now why shouldn't that extend to the ability to evolve? Say some monkeys were sitting around and over a period of time started doing things different from there monkey norm eg - walking erect. This could have been a choice they made, maybe god was happier with monkeys but the whole freedom of choice thing back fired and he's stuck with us.This is just me being random trying to point out ways that the whole evo/creation could work together.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:26 AM

Who the hell would believe in evolution! certainly not i! as we all know, the world was created by the flying spagetti monster, and in his almighty power, he placed the idea of evolution in the minds of the weak. Evolution simply cant exist, since every single shred of the masses of evidence supporting this theory was faked by our holy spaggetti monster.All praise the mighty noodle, and thus, you all now know that evolution is impossible.
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:30 AM

Who the hell would believe in evolution! certainly not i! as we all know, the world was created by the flying spagetti monster, and in his almighty power, he placed the idea of evolution in the minds of the weak. Evolution simply cant exist, since every single shred of the masses of evidence supporting this theory was faked by our holy spaggetti monster.All praise the mighty noodle, and thus, you all now know that evolution is impossible.

Damm noobs. if you don't have anything of use to add don't post!As for evolution why can't it exist? Don't give me the whole spagetti monster junk.
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:39 AM

Who the hell would believe in evolution! certainly not i! as we all know, the world was created by the flying spagetti monster, and in his almighty power, he placed the idea of evolution in the minds of the weak. Evolution simply cant exist, since every single shred of the masses of evidence supporting this theory was faked by our holy spaggetti monster.All praise the mighty noodle, and thus, you all now know that evolution is impossible.

Damm noobs. if you don't have anything of use to add don't post!As for evolution why can't it exist? Don't give me the whole spagetti monster junk.

So much for hoping people to understand subtle comments. you should really think about things before you simply yell damn noobs. Read this article, and maybe my point will make more sense. http://www.venganza.org/
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:44 AM

So much for hoping people to understand subtle comments. you should really think about things before you simply yell damn noobs. Read this article, and maybe my point will make more sense. http://www.venganza.org/

And if you had that added that in your original post i would have taken the time to take a look at it. As you didn't my point is still valid, you weren't adding anything of use to this topic with your original post.So again explain why evolution can't exist and we'll have a dicussion. As for your spagetti monster it's funny but that's about it.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:58 AM

So much for hoping people to understand subtle comments. you should really think about things before you simply yell damn noobs. Read this article, and maybe my point will make more sense. http://www.venganza.org/

And if you had that added that in your original post i would have taken the time to take a look at it. As you didn't my point is still valid, you weren't adding anything of use to this topic with your original post.So again explain why evolution can't exist and we'll have a dicussion. As for your spagetti monster it's funny but not valid.

Of course its valid. I was using sarcasm to illustrate my point. If you look beyond the first impression you'll realize that i support evolution, and was pointing out the lack of evidence for other theory's as oppossed to evolution.
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